From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 19 20:08:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2194516A468 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outC.internet-mail-service.net (outC.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42B813C45E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from mx0.idiom.com (HELO idiom.com) (216.240.32.160) by out.internet-mail-service.net (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:08:25 -0700 X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e X-Client-Authorized: MaGic Cook1e Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (nat.ironport.com [63.251.108.100]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360F71263D3; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <46F181B7.6080803@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:08:23 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Gritton References: <46F03D10.2070607@gritton.org> <20070919145143.GD965@garage.freebsd.pl> <46F178E4.7050408@gritton.org> In-Reply-To: <46F178E4.7050408@gritton.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-jail@FreeBSD.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek Subject: Re: Hierarchical jails - any current work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:08:27 -0000 James Gritton wrote: > Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >> Something like this: >> http://garage.freebsd.pl/mljail.README >> >> I did it some time ago, and this is one of the feature for new jail >> implementation with is beeing designed > > Yes, that's just the thing I'm talking about, so it looks like I have > indeed be reinventing something. (The jail scheduling work of cdjones > it something else I'm interested in, but for another time). > > Now the question becomes: how much jail work is out there, and what's > the likelihood is it seeing the light of day in a released kernel? I > hate to be going about coding stuff that's been done before (well, > actually I enjoy coding it but you know...), but I only ever see > snippets of jail work mentioned here and there and nothing ever seems to > get anywhere official. I figured the place to talk about this was the > freebsd-jail mailing list, but it seems to be mostly for stuff like > "getting app X to work in a jail" or "the current jail rc scripts have > this or that deficiency." That's why I cross-mailed to freebsd-hackers > - maybe more appropriate there? > > Where's the secret place people really go to communicate this kind of > thing? I've done a lot of work in the general jail-like area, and while > much of it it the same as others' I'd like to share what isn't. Of > course, with other people's jail-related projects staying on the > sidelines so long - and that by those with "@freebsd.org" stature - one > wonders if there's a point. I don't mean to sound down on anything, > just wondering what the state of the "jail community" is. Or where it is. > please please please familiarise yourself with the Vimage code that Marko Zec is working on. It is a superset of jails and all future virtualisation work at this level (as oppposed to Xen or vmware etc.) should be done in co-operation so that a generic framework is used. marko has done some of this already and his code utilises some of the existing Jail frameowork. > - Jamie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"