Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 19:01:32 +0200 From: Alexander Langer <alex@big.endian.de> To: Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com> Cc: Jeremiah Gowdy <jgowdy@home.com>, Travis Cole <tcole@wcug.wwu.edu>, "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" <insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net>, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and IRC Message-ID: <20000502190132.A7377@cichlids.cichlids.com> In-Reply-To: <20000502123351.V86725@jade.chc-chimes.com>; from billf@chc-chimes.com on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:33:51PM -0400 References: <20000501183644.A75942@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <20000501221654.A20589@wcug.wwu.edu> <000f01bfb3f9$5db2f0e0$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> <20000502000316.A24887@wcug.wwu.edu> <20000502094046.B2489@cichlids.cichlids.com> <002801bfb44a$9744a0a0$5a5d0418@vista1.sdca.home.com> <20000502173315.A6023@cichlids.cichlids.com> <20000502123351.V86725@jade.chc-chimes.com>
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Thus spake Bill Fumerola (billf@chc-chimes.com): > (1) They expect that it is their God-given right to get help in #freebsd. That is not true. When I was a lamer^Wnewbie, I went to the next IRC-Channel and asked something (how to extract a .tar.gz, actually). They told me, that there are manpages that explain most commands, and that there are many other docs on the internet at that-and-that place. Well done, after I had _this_ info I could find out myself and I did. But one had to point me to this things. People just don't imagine that there is a command like "man" which explains things. > evading bans by coming back under different hostnames, > /msg flooding the ops/flooding the channel, > Using DoS attacks on the ops, > getting their friends to troll the channel. Eh, Bill :-) This are of course reasons to ki{ck,ll} [1] people, but I'm not talking about these guys. I talk about newbies. > (2) I try to put #freebsdhelp and or the handbook/FAQ in my kick reason. That's what I meant. Why is "/k newbie check #freebsdhelp" shorter for you than "please ask in #freebsdhelp". > (3) I often kick with the answer to the question/URL for more information. Same as above. Alex [1] IRC-Operator-Kill -- I need a new ~/.sig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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