From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Oct 12 13:58:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA15715 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:58:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from usr05.primenet.com (tlambert@usr05.primenet.com [206.165.6.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA15707 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21013; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 13:57:31 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199710122057.NAA21013@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: fnord0: disabled, not probed. To: tim@ppp6575.on.sympatico.ca (Tim Vanderhoek) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:57:30 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, hoek@hwcn.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Tim Vanderhoek" at Oct 12, 97 04:02:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > So what do folks think, can I kill it? [he said already knowing that > > > > at least one dissenting vote will come from bde, great champion of > > > > chatty kernels that he is. ;-)] > [...] > > > > How will I know I have unused drivers if I don't get this message? > > You will make a mental note to do so when you disable them. What will I do if I buy a used machine with FreeBSD installed on it... telepathically copy the notebook from the guy selling it? It seems we are reaching here to eliminate a perfectly reasonable warning message from the view of people too lazy to rebuild their kernel with fewer devices. Obviously, if each driver lived in a different group of ELF sections, an ELF image archiver could remove drivers at will (assuming a fix to the linker set code for this), and the problem would be resolved. This seems to be the "right way"(tm) to do the fix. Why encourage doing something the "wrong way"(tm) when it will just have to be undone later. I suppose we can all make mental notes to undo it... yeah, that always works; there's no legacy cruft from failed mental noted in the FreeBSD kernel, no sirree! Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.