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Date:      Thu, 19 May 2022 13:41:01 -0400
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Single User
Message-ID:  <cc50b9ca-cdc0-1e72-cf17-928d8b2751a4@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On 5/19/22 10:59 AM, doug wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2022, Mario Lobo wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:51 AM Valeri Galtsev 
>> <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>       On 5/19/22 9:25 AM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
>>       > Hi,
>>       >
>>       > On Mon, 16 May 2022 01:44:57 +1000
>>       > Andy Farkas <andyf@andyit.com.au> wrote:
>>       >
>>       >> "Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh:"
>>       >>
>>       >> I haven't seen a RETURN key on a keyboard for many many 
>> decades..
>>       >>
>>       >> -andyf
>>       >>
>>       >>
>>       >
>>       > ENTER and RETURN are two different keys.
>>       >
>>       > Are no mainframe guys here who still know this?
>>       >
>>
>>       I am old enough to remember this. Do we remember CR/LF as in 
>> "carriage
>>       return" and "line feed"?
>>
>>       ;-)
>>
>>       Valeri
>>
>>       > Erich
>>
>>
>> Man .. I'm old!
>>
>> I even know where these terms came from. They're typewriter terms .
>>
>> When you reached the end of the line on the paper being typed, you had 
>> to crank a lever to roll the
>> paper one line up (LINE FEED)
>> and use the lever to return (push) the carriage to the first position 
>> of the new line (CARRIAGE
>> RETURN).
>>
> 
> Pretty sure I am the only one on this list who used compressed punched 
> cards on IBSYS. That said, two things are obvious here: 13 is in pretty 
> good shape; and it is a slow news day.

I do not know what "compressed" punch cards are. I used regular 80 
column ones. And did see people using 45 column ones.

Valeri



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