From nobody Tue Dec 31 12:36:10 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YMt421pKLz5jPwB for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "uucp.dinoex.sub.de", Issuer "R11" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4YMt403Gqmz4h19 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org designates 2a0b:f840::12 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org; dmarc=none; arc=pass ("uucp.dinoex.org:s=M20221114:i=1") Received: from uucp.dinoex.org (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 4BVCjAIk071177 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:45:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=uucp.dinoex.org; s=M20221114; t=1735649112; cv=none; b=YvxIzrVCbyWxAKAv+JexX8B6oJ4G1oB1veqAdnZG0MKFv7BhZHOoRBB77JMfDSBjrISkpq9n2HwJiygRQvJ5yySFEgX7iTX14eXuaCwSOZs2Fu6wydNIIAiWiJAcF+HdUP3YRjEGSAmMjiyUiTfTcptdtFH4jlnxBVWhxW2YCwc= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=uucp.dinoex.org; s=M20221114; t=1735649112; c=relaxed/simple; bh=6dI44rcBspy5PccSGf0y+kMZ8mrR7LNVa85RIkHBVnc=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Authentication-Warning:From: X-Newsgroups:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:Injection-Date: Injection-Info:User-Agent:To:X-Milter:X-Greylist; b=iD9FKA6ZsK6tFXvfthSaHtWTwP6XO1rb/LLC8pb/7mTkdx8RTiI+S8XYBAijD9IAnMbau9L2RcKNkSN/IMUqGeXyt+Ih2ACjOFlvtWiH41IQYfrL1RAyGamI52w7sMvQtHYrAhyDWcYOJuSoWcRsgQoaPofPMsxVT22nnjPZd7Y= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; uucp.dinoex.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uucp.dinoex.org (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) with UUCP id 4BVCjAGZ071176 for freebsd-fs@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:45:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from admn.intra.daemon.contact (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admn.intra.daemon.contact (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPS id 4BVCaLfP097414 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:36:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) Received: from intra.daemon.contact (news@localhost) by admn.intra.daemon.contact (8.18.1/8.18.1/Submit) with NNTP id 4BVCaAv7097367 for freebsd-fs@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:36:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: admn.intra.daemon.contact: news set sender to li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org using -f From: "Peter 'PMc' Much" X-Newsgroups: m2n.fbsd.fs Subject: Re: "Loader needs to be updated" (azure guest context) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:36:10 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Injection-Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 12:36:10 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: admn.intra.daemon.contact; logging-data="84819"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@citylink.dinoex.sub.org" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.org; Sender-ip: 0:0:2a0b:f840::; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.org;) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]); Tue, 31 Dec 2024 13:45:12 +0100 (CET) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[uucp.dinoex.org:s=M20221114:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org,li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:205376, ipnet:2a0b:f840::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org,li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sub.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YMt403Gqmz4h19 X-Spamd-Bar: --- List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org On 2024-12-30, void wrote: > Latest upgrade from 13.3-p6 to 13.4-p1 shows "loader needs to be updated" > in the beastie menu in the console now. This is new. I am seeing this message on all my 13.4 systems (all upgraded from source via "make installworld" & friends). So far it didn't appear to induce any malfunctions, so I decided to ignore it (systems aren't supposed to be rebooted often). Recently I've seen this message, and also another message shown before the loader appears, only for a fraction of a second, apparently coming from the EFI stuff, on my laptop. And since I was sitting on the train with nothing to do, I had a look into the efi filesystem, and found the loader there being from 2022. The laptop does boot via EFI, only - and the efi filesystem could not be updated via "make installworld" (even if it would try, which it doesn't), because it is normally not mounted. So I grabbed the according loader executable from /boot, which apparently is up-to-date, and copied it into the efi filesystem. It didn't help anything. > This system is *not* root-on-zfs. There is zfs, but it's data on > a non-boot virtual disk. Same here. > is the warning safe to ignore in this context? I'm doing so, with no issues. Cheerio, PMc