From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 30 19:15:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19651 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19599; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:15:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA19144; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:45:31 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA03695; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:45:28 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19981001114527.E603@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:45:27 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Ray Seals , Freebsd-Advocacy Cc: Jordan Hubbard , FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On-line Help References: <000d01bdec7e$b9fde2e0$1a1e10ac@rseals.midwestis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <000d01bdec7e$b9fde2e0$1a1e10ac@rseals.midwestis.com>; from Ray Seals on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 09:29:26AM -0500 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 30 September 1998 at 9:29:26 -0500, Ray Seals wrote: > > Since Jordan and Greg read this group also, I can't speak for Jordan, but in my case I read this list when I have time. I try to find time, but I don't always succeed. So: if you want to be sure I read a specific message, please copy me on it explicitly. I always read messages addressed to me directly. In view of that and the subject matter, I'm copying Jordan (who may have a lot to say) and the documentation project on this message. > I would like to make this comment. The one thing I will hand to the > Linux crowd is the HOWTO pages on their website. While we have a > pretty decent set of help pages on our side. As a FreeBSD newbie > (1.2 years) I have found some things rather difficult to track down. > I propose that we spend some time porting their HOWTO pages to > FreeBSD website. I'm sure the lack of documentation on how to do > things is due to the fact that most of us aren't 14 year olds or in > college. So, we don't have a lot of time on our hands to write > documentation. We have to document enough stuff at work. Agreed. I had thought of collecting the howtos and adapting them to FreeBSD as an interim measure. Note that this would mean that they would be under the GPL; I don't see a big problem with this, though I know others do. > How bad do you think that would piss those guys off? They have no reason to be pissed off. If they release stuff under the GPL, they must expect (even welcome) this to happen. > I'm not talking about down right copying either. I'm talking about > using their stuff as a frame work to see what is needed by the > general public in terms of documentation for tasks. Sure. Nothing else would work. I'm very much in favour of the idea, but we should bear in mind that the documents will come under the GPL, so I'd suggest that we keep the FreeBSD-specific stuff elsewhere (under a Berkeley copyright) and parallel to that merge them into the GPL version. That way, when we have time, we can make a complete Berkeley version which is not affected by the GPL. Any suggestions where we should start? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message