From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 29 23:13:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD91C37B401; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dglawrence.com (12-224-163-157.client.attbi.com [12.224.163.157]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA4943FAF; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@nexus.dglawrence.com) Received: from nexus.dglawrence.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dglawrence.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h5U6EHjb050210; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:14:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@nexus.dglawrence.com) Received: (from dg@localhost) by nexus.dglawrence.com (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) id h5U6EHQn050209; Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 23:14:17 -0700 From: "David G. Lawrence" To: Michael Sierchio Message-ID: <20030630061417.GA35100@nexus.dglawrence.com> References: <200306300357.h5U3vwv6041101@nexus.dglawrence.com> <3EFFB607.6030101@tenebras.com> <20030630042653.GK29066@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3EFFD0D1.9030605@tenebras.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3EFFD0D1.9030605@tenebras.com> cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Please confirm (conf#3cf11a7145595546740c6064dbc27044) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 06:13:37 -0000 >Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >>David G. Lawrence used to be called David Greenman. He's one of the >>founders of the project. > >I do wish people who change their names would send notices. >Did he get married? ;-) No, I didn't get married. >>The real issue here is that somebody has forged a message and sent it >>to him. > >No, the real issue is that there are scads of virii/worms in the wild >which forge message envelope senders. It is absurd to send >autoresponder messages to a mailing list. It is a bad idea (tm) >to send autoresponder messages upon receiving malware or spam. >Sysadmins everywhere are getting messages from clueless users, >themselves recipients of nag or bother messages asking, in >effect, "why did you send me a virus" when the user has no >friggin' clue who the doofus sending the complaint is. This >is BONEHEADED. ASK doesn't normally send autoresponder messages to mailing lists, and of course I have freebsd-stable in my whitelist, but this particular forged piece of spam managed to not match my whitelist entry and also didn't look like it was from a mailing list. I respectfully disagree with your second assertion that doing sender confirmations is 'a bad idea'. Despite this little hickup with ASK, I highly recommend it. It sucessfully filters about 99.999% of the spam that I get, while rarely blocking legitimate email. -DG David G. Lawrence Download Technologies, Inc. - http://www.downloadtech.com - (866) 399 8500 TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com - (888) 346 7175 The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Pave the road of life with opportunities.