Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 18:42:27 +0200 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de> To: Brian Behlendorf <brian@collab.net> Cc: Gordon Tetlow <gordont@bluemtn.net>, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFilter licence update Message-ID: <20010607184227.O59617@mail.webmonster.de> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0106062215520.1996-100000@localhost>; from brian@collab.net on Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:21:29PM -0700 References: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0106061730440.94127-100000@sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com> <Pine.BSF.4.31.0106062215520.1996-100000@localhost>
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--jozmn01XJZjDjM3N Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian Behlendorf(brian@collab.net)@2001.06.06 22:21:29 +0000: > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > I removed Darren from the CC list as I don't think he really needs to be > > in on this discussion.... > > > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > > > While meaning no disrespect to Darren with this followup. What good = does a > > > signed memorandum with FreeBSD do if I decide at some point (which I = won't) > > > to take the FreeBSD source and branch it into my own variant? This i= s how > > > the various BSDs came about in the first place. It does seem rather > > > restrictive of a license for the FreeBSD core system. Why can't this= be > > > released under the BSD license? > > > > <abestos_suit> > > It's not released under a BSD license because he doesn't want to. His > > perogative. We have some much more restrictive licenses (ie GPL) in the > > base OS and no one complains about them. > > </abestos_suit> >=20 > Wait, I'm confused. I thought the resolution was that the ipfilter code > that was a part of FreeBSD was under the standard BSD license like > everything else under /usr/src (aside from /usr/src/gnu), and that > Darren's no-redistribution-of-modifications clause applied to > non-"release" versions of the software, i.e. beta releases, etc, the > implication being that once released, it'd be put under a BSD license and > then integrated into FreeBSD. Is that not the case? i understood it perfectly this way. this makes sense, actually. >=20 > If not, that's pretty bad - it means that you can't really say anymore > that 'FreeBSD is under the BSD license, aside from some GNU bits', you > have to say 'FreeBSD is under a multitude of licenses, some of them not > open source, please examine all source code files for potential licenses > before redistributing'. That would suck. freebsd already has a way of being able to handle those otherwise very quirky to handle things. remember the ssecure/scrypto distributions from before rsa patent expiry? one could easily add a WITHOUT_IPFILTER toggle to /etc/make.conf and that's pretty it. >=20 > Frankly, Darren's "no modified versions may be redistributed" > "clarification" is much worse than even the GPL. But I'll avoid > recrossing well-covered ground. as with all intellectual property and the resulting code thereof, it's the choice of the author. providing source which dows not comply with the open source terms as in several other licenses covered is not a bad thing. IMHO it is better than providing binary releases or no redistributable code at all. /k --=20 > God smiles upon the little children, the alcoholics,=20 > and the permanently stoned. --Steven King KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ karsten&rohrbach.de -- alpha&ngenn.net -- alpha&scene.org -- catch@spam.de GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 --jozmn01XJZjDjM3N Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7H67zM0BPTilkv0YRAtVEAKCNub79zJ4+vovqshe/pH1EgcSFAQCfSUgq lRXP62NngGF8ufpHXyZqASk= =OIbE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jozmn01XJZjDjM3N-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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