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IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (3.15), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.16), asn: 36646(0.93), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[200.184.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[200.184.163.66.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:23:18 -0000 On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 at 12:56, Jacques Foucry w= rote: > Or GhostBSD which have all those =C2=AB funny =C2=BB things. A gui instal= ler, a gui > pac=D1=9Cega manager, use networkManager, etc. > > Pretty good for a desktop. Be carefull it's run on STABLE. > > This NOT an OS for *BSD sysadmin which will tune the OS, but to start usi= ng > BSD like Linux, it's a good way. You're painting a picture of Linux (which is not an OS but a kernel) as if it was the ultimate eye-candy, graphics-fanboi OS, which is not. Under the hood, it can be as arcane and obscure as any old-school Unix clones. Outside the *BSD bubble, 99% of IT end users regard Linux as "the" difficult OS. Some people find Windows 10 difficult. Some people find using an Android smartphone difficult. Yes, we may think they are stupid but they are the ones who pay our wages. Just slap Mate, KDE or Gnome on any OS and it will make it more beginners-friendly. --=20 Ottavio Caruso