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Date:      Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:13:25 -0700
From:      Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com>
To:        Clayton Milos <clay@milos.co.za>
Cc:        Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, Freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] Need Testers for: sysutils/bsdconfig
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On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:44 PM, Devin Teske wrote:

>=20
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Devin Teske wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On Jun 22, 2012, at 5:27 AM, Clayton Milos wrote:
>>=20
>>>=20
>>> When selecting user account expiry the calendar starts at 1 January 197=
0. I
>>> understand that this is when Unix time started but it would be nice for=
 it
>>> to start from the current date.
>>>=20
>>=20
>> This was on-purpose because there is a discrepancy in passwd(5) manual r=
egarding what a value of zero (0) means for these fields.
>>=20
>> From passwd(5):
>>=20
>>      The change field is the number of seconds from the epoch, UTC, unti=
l the
>>      password for the account must be changed.  This field may be left e=
mpty
>>      to turn off the password aging feature.
>>=20
>> Nowhere in the manual does it say that zero is a synonym to being left e=
mpty.
>>=20
>=20
> And yet, this is how the system treats zero (was my complaint).
>=20
> The user root (and toor, and several other system users) come with a defa=
ult value of zero for this field.
>=20
> If zero was treated according to the manual, then root would be disabled =
by default. But that's clearly not the case in a default installation which=
 has a value of zero.
>=20
> So, when you're using bsdconfig to view an existing user that has a value=
 of zero, you will notice that the default calendar date/time that is chose=
n corresponds to "zero seconds from the epoch, UTC", despite the fact that =
I know (and you know) that zero is synonymous with NULL.
>=20
> So I'm a fan of updating the man page and when that is done, I am happy t=
o change bsdconfig to treat zero as-such. But right now I wanted to stay tr=
ue to the manual (which plainly states that any non-NULL value is treated a=
s seconds from the epoch).

In an effort to get the passwd(5) manual updated (pre-requisite to fixing t=
he bsdconfig(8) functionality to coincide with the manual change), I've fil=
ed PR ports/169354.

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D169354
--=20
Devin

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