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[92.1.116.226]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l34sm693402wms.45.2021.06.28.15.11.43 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 28 Jun 2021 15:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:11:43 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old NVIDIA card, new FreeBSD = failure? Message-ID: <20210628231143.098884e5@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <85b5b9b3-ad93-e8ac-2e86-b2f277ed7753@freebsd.org> References: <36919.1624649280@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <24790.13300.679983.900189@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <778F35B8-10F3-4D4D-8200-A235FD9A0762@unrelenting.technology> <24791.42526.208238.436624@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <24792.26420.394563.785764@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <85b5b9b3-ad93-e8ac-2e86-b2f277ed7753@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GDMJy5jHQz4jR3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.33 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[googlemail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[googlemail.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.329]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[92.1.116.226:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::334:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[googlemail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[googlemail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[googlemail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::334:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::334:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 22:11:47 -0000 On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 15:45:29 +0200 Stefan Esser wrote: > The only drawback compared to a modern card is raw performance (but > the 7750 is already faster than today's typical on-chip VGAs) and > lack of HW decoding of modern video codecs like VP9. I wonder if hardware decoding is actually important on desktop processors. I'm using integrated Intel HD 2500 graphics from 8 years ago with the i915 driver and, AFAIK, I'm seeing 3d acceleration, but not getting hardware decoding for video. 1080p x264 decoding in software is using only about 28% of a core with vlc, 4k video on a 1080p display is about 180%. This is on an 8 year old, bottom of the range, quad core, sandy bridge i5 cpu.