From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Oct 2 15:48:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.smed.com (smtp.smed.com [12.20.51.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F0037B66D; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.shrmed.com (keymaster.smed.com [12.20.51.2]) by smtp.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6FF161C2; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:48:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iesa14.shrmed.com (iesa14.shrmed.com [10.1.99.114]) by smtpgate.shrmed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32754; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:48:32 -0400 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from Deimos.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.shrmed.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Mon, 02 Oct 2000 18:48:23 -0400 Received: by Deimos.smed.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 8525696C.007D1E6E ; Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:46:37 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SMS To: David Johnson Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <8525696C.007D1E43.00@Deimos.smed.com> Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:49:11 -0600 Subject: Re: BSD Magazine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Or we could all do what the Linux community did two and three years ago >(when they were in our position). When you buy a NIC, soundcard or any >other hardware ask the manufacturer for a FreeBSD driver. Ask Dell and >Gateway for preinstalls of FreeBSD. Agreed..and I've heard this recommended before. >Don't refer to Open Source Unix applications as "Linux apps". Yes! Very good point! I agree with everything you've said but would add that it wouldn't hurt to take a more proactive approach and make an effort to contact the advertisers directly, whether by email or phone and not just when you purchase a new NIC or soundcard. I think it would be a good idea to pick up a few of the most popular magazines, take note of who some of their most prominent advertisers are and send them a polite message. As stated in a previous email, I plan to contact as many publishers and now advertisers as I can and will post the feedback I get here. Though, it will take more than one person's efforts to make a dent. Joe |--------+-----------------------> | | David Johnson| | | | | | | | | 10/02/00 | | | 04:32 PM | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Joe Warner/SMS@SMS | | cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, | | freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org | | Subject: Re: BSD Magazine? | >---------------------------------------------------------| Joe.Warner@smed.com wrote: > So, it seems if a BSD focused magazine is to become a reality, efforts need > to > be made to spread the word to the advertisers as well as publishers, with > heavy emphasis on the previous. Or we could all do what the Linux community did two and three years ago (when they were in our position). When you buy a NIC, soundcard or any other hardware ask the manufacturer for a FreeBSD driver. Ask Dell and Gateway for preinstalls of FreeBSD. Ask your software vendors when they will be porting their stuff to FreeBSD. The answer to all of the above will be "no" and "never", but it will plant the name "FreeBSD" into their heads. And we also need to do some stuff that they never even had a problem with... Don't refer to Open Source Unix applications as "Linux apps". When an article talks about "Apache, the Linux software", gently and *politely* remind them that Apache works with all Unix systems, including FreeBSD, Solaris et al (it's okay to fail to mention NT :-) ). When you hear of an announcement to port a program to Linux, ask whether it will also be ported to FreeBSD. Eventually it will dawn on these advertisers and publishers that there is this thing out there called FreeBSD and that its users have money to spend. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message