From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Mar 20 18:39:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19111 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:39:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.konnections.com (mail.konnections.com [192.41.71.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19105; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 18:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from castle (root@ip207.konnections.com [192.41.71.207]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA03266; Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:39:00 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3333450A.93B36BA@konnections.com> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 19:33:46 -0700 From: mike allison Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i486) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brian N. Handy" CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , FreeBSD-chat@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Free Systems Journal References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian: Yes, the Free Systems Journal will be a REAL cover & postage magazine that the whole world can subscribe to. BUT, and this is important... - it won't JUST be BSD - it won't be evangelical, officially below the Free /Open systems line. - it CAN'T cater to all of the specific needs of the BSD community, I don't think. Although, again I'll let the community dictate that. What Jordan wants to do goes to the FreeBSD community. If Jordan can support that, then I think it is a good thing. Again, I don't think competition is a bad thing, but I also don't see it as competition. Also, I promised to give some kind of face time to the newsletter, even if it is just a "For More In Depth...see.." sorta thing. The risk doesn't lie within the community. It lies with those of us businesses who take these risks. If there is a market for the mag, and it's well written, there is, ergo, a market for the readership and, logically, market potential for advertisers. That's where it will succeed. A free newsletter is not competition in those senses. We do not compete for resources outside of input and some of that we can share. My cause isn't to win support for Jordan, I'm not quitting becuase he's in the fray, the market will support us all. But, I'm not going to try to kill or swap the newsletter, either, it's a healthy addition. In my humble opinion. -Mike Brian N. Handy wrote: > > >Anything I haven't thoght of? > > Any chance of combining this operation into one mighty empire that could > succeed, rather than two competing empires with the same goals? > > Also, is the Free Systems Journal destined to be a real, oh-my-gosh > Publication, with a cover and postage and I can subscribe to it, or > something else? (That didn't come across completely clear to me, but I > may have missed something.) Jordan has been caught vaguely off-guard, so > I'm not sure he's completely fleshed out his version of what he wants to > do. At any rate, I'd be more excited about supporting something that was > going to get some exposure outside of our little community here. I'm > almost afraid a newsletter of sorts would not see a lot of exposure > outside of the people already subscribed to freebsd-*, whereas something > that gets published and advertised and talked about and whoa here it is on > the MAGAZINE RACK and what's this {Free, Net, Open}BSD stuff about anyway? > > I guess what I'm saying is I strongly support the idea of a publication, > if that's what Mike is talking about. Jordan is a real capable salesman, > though, who I'm sure could make a newsletter focussed specifically on > FreeBSD succeed too. I'd rather see forces that mesh well together rather > than smaller competing services. > > Brian