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Date:      Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:24:12 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        "Jeffrey J. Mountin" <jeff-ml@mountin.net>
Cc:        Tom <tom@uniserve.com>, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Initial performance testing w/ postmark & softupdates... 
Message-ID:  <200002211524.HAA53892@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:53:42 CST." <3.0.3.32.20000219035342.009ce460@207.227.119.2> 

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In message <3.0.3.32.20000219035342.009ce460@207.227.119.2>, "Jeffrey 
J. Mounti
n" writes:
> At 03:08 PM 2/18/00 -0800, Tom wrote:
> >On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote:
> >
> >> Tom wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >   Not really.  You could just use async updates instead of softupdates.
> >> > Or an OS that uses async updates.  Write caching metadata is always
> faster
> >> > than re-ordering it intelligently.
> >> 
> >> Softupdates reduces the number of writes needed. It can coalesce writes
> >> to the same block.
> >
> >  Async updates are always as fast as softupdates, if not faster.  You
> >should read the softupdates docs.
> 
> As fast, but not safer.
> 
> Can't recall the entire analogy, but Terry mentioned on -hacker a long time
> back something to the effect that softupdates is like having a seatbelt and
> an airbag rather than just a seatbelt, as well as a faster car too.

A paper by Gregory R. Granger and Yale N. Patt of the Departement of 
EECS, University of Michigan entitled Soft Update:  A Solution to the 
Metadata Update Problem in File Systems discusses softupdate 
performance v.s. asynchronous write performance.  The difference wasn't 
much, somewhere around 2-3%.


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