From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 1 13:45:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA22479 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:45:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22469 for ; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:45:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA08611; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:45:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from j@uriah.heep.sax.de) Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id WAA11310; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:41:57 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19971201224156.35000@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:41:56 +0100 From: J Wunsch To: FreeBSD chat list Cc: John Fieber , Alex Subject: Re: Out of Box experience (Was: Re: How is selection made of what goes into CDrom?) Reply-To: Joerg Wunsch References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: ; from John Fieber on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 10:12:58AM -0500 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (redirected to -chat) As John Fieber wrote: > > Speaking of an out of box experience, KDE works quite nicely. > I'm not too enthusiastic about the implementation, at this stage > at least. The basic required processes suck up unreasonable > amounts of RAM and my X server bloats to almost twice the size I > usually see it at. In the end, my 64MB machine feels like it has > about 32MB. Ain't it a nice Windoze emulation? ``We promise to make your machine as slow as it were under Windoze.'' :-) I personally find CDE (and Motif in general, for that matter) rather ugly-looking. While i'm a long-term fvwm user, i would certainly rather agree to use qvwm on my desktop than i would volunteerely use CDE or a lookalike of it on any machine i'm using for daily work. If they hadn't broken cut&paste that badly, i would be impressed by the simplicity and yet prettiness of the OpenView look&feel. (Of course, not by their code quality. :-] I've once tried to port OpenView to 386BSD, but gave up. Others seem to have succeeded, and i appreciate their work.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)