From nobody Thu May 19 17:56:24 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C2E1B30089 for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 17:56:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4L3yGY477Sz3qHy for ; Thu, 19 May 2022 17:56:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1652982998; x=1655574998; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=5w76M5SGOaH9vwAAZ5NAt/e2mlmkbQOvxl/CFW8Ddgs=; b=T8j93oJaHx+wVOgw/tS/ucytgJhmf4KtmD8UUmb2n6m/I9cqA5VRVbbw0Zv9IuKMHe+rewRZVODQEEHJFe2dM+PSzlh4itP6hb9636vTwM12YyEnI1A98lW8O0P/hBE5gzaWXe70DcaCOxYDgX4R9QDajlQVsOxdVAsoS7s/yPU= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRlMDAwMDE1MGUzMzcucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 19 May 2022 13:56:27 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 19 May 2022 13:56:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1nrkNt-000InY-1i; Thu, 19 May 2022 18:56:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 18:56:24 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Single User Message-Id: <20220519185624.bb50ff1b1213bce12b589a95@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <165af1d7-5209-b49e-d99b-c5120654d883@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <91d28f49-1c1b-d2bf-5fd6-8b2e206ee6c7@andyit.com.au> <20220519132547.6b8cbb36.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> <24632e11-1a86-8553-cf44-d29aa40a6858@kicp.uchicago.edu> <165af1d7-5209-b49e-d99b-c5120654d883@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4L3yGY477Sz3qHy X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=T8j93oJa; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.3:received]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.981]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4e0000150e337.76eddbd67e76e052bf6126a21d2d5834@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, 19 May 2022 13:38:57 -0400 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 5/19/22 10:20 AM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > I even know where these terms came from. They're typewriter terms . > > > > When you reached the end of the line on the paper being typed, you had > > to crank a lever to roll the paper one line up (LINE FEED) > > and use the lever to return (push) the carriage to the first position > > of the new line (CARRIAGE RETURN). > > Me too, it is hard to forget the origing of such things somehow. It's sometimes hard to keep in mind that there are large numbers of people (perhaps even most adults) who don't remember typewriters being everywhere and needing to hire a typist from time to time. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith