From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Tue Sep 20 07:23:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC425BE2966; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etnapierala@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 650E9365; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from etnapierala@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l132so191620497wmf.0; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:23:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=pC9j2JRCRPnHhxd9ypR2rXJI2SmN6LSMJwFBUagAlRo=; b=AJ30ejYC/t0TKefXhTfHuW7Ot1kf0wABvWU8GSMwCEpDYAM/yfVYpFNdxXiMGupW65 klW2nBFvKhwFQEEdTtnV4f741+O/JDaNNBFSo5vOI4VJ+0bu1RhzvQ/NoD6dYmSMlo56 /X/mkxGYiNX1bv45yYVWTE2AZYjiO3/YgseC0sD11bKSgZNoWpJq8m5xtEQOEKlAK0Eq xvSzhPIEX05W8352DIkDoSz/nsCUwgeEy1Nv3yBPPLiVPjsZGMvszFUlBheU+Pguel3q mR0Nd7ezZWtLXWQ4eXrhYbilRz05Sbnj7srVFAgd16jAIbVHx5nBoHOgwa0sEe7XEl3O RHMQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=pC9j2JRCRPnHhxd9ypR2rXJI2SmN6LSMJwFBUagAlRo=; b=iDHQYbkg74mBuxDuE40tZN86wk434l9sKW7JYc8uPp5+W8gVM3Xx6/06B0xPODQC// 1U7nkDq7KkYSQWLg8athYnACPnbf541BgmUumYIxFzlBPSPCs+t4whh0XCaFMCUc/ZOU nghE9jYHmsAqDqDRRru3FPkCzNPd64LPX5M7FYLkEPbQMvHYzPQ4FOykwEVb900Vc2d8 4yyRTGP4csN3O6S9Xd3QCdruhEXRsdXecjCfVdh21xmcw4THXg8ntD0VCvINk502cdNF 2Lpm9fvuOgRUtwKcK127fpje8Nsnb4lcpc5PAnjJAus+iR9QWlh34PhE7oOm07RJe4Zx lkUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwM8svr5A129IzxzF6eKp8QkUUwBwCRAsAnoVYgANxfl+Su8Bv+QD2ra1pKNS2jafw== X-Received: by 10.28.216.211 with SMTP id p202mr1731072wmg.85.1474356213881; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brick (etn137.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl. [83.20.159.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y2sm26834435wji.42.2016.09.20.00.23.32 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Sep 2016 00:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Edward_Tomasz_Napiera=C5=82a?= Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:23:30 +0200 From: Edward Tomasz Napierala To: Bruce Evans Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r306012 - head/etc/autofs Message-ID: <20160920072330.GA13933@brick> Mail-Followup-To: Bruce Evans , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org References: <201609200454.u8K4s0RZ025158@repo.freebsd.org> <20160920164312.W1333@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160920164312.W1333@besplex.bde.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:23:36 -0000 On 0920T1653, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Edward Tomasz Napierala wrote: > > > Log: > > Fix -media to not mount ufs with "async"; it doesn't make sense when > > there is softupdates. > > It does make sense when there isn't soft updates. With soft updates, it > is silently ignored. True. It might be possible to make special_media to check whether softdep is enabled using tunefs(8). > However, I don't like changing the default. async gives less robustness > and noatime breaks POSIX conformance. I liked the previous defaults too, until I've started to use this more often. For things like SD cards, "sync" is just annoyingly slow. > I use async a lot, but rarely for removable backup media except for the > first use, and noatime almost always, and type a lot of mount commands, > mostly using shell history to retrieve nearly-correct options and then > edit just to toggle ro/rw and async/noasync flags. Btw, /etc/autofs is in /etc for a reason - so that the system administrators can tweak it.