From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 10 19:13:27 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8971065672 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dak.col@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iw0-f178.google.com (mail-iw0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0956A8FC20 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so753834iwn.28 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B/l7HnP7fYGuRogkSl5w4MPqqQuEVqiWwTnkcj7oxFI=; b=xEYQkcxJ6RLeIrYNGYzvuHw/ABReFXjt/vqThJknKUlX7SdQ93er41vg2gaITNHFAC 0usrgyIKH+yHH50hw8iCgs19Y64vvAs5EOVYJuIPsyrugY82t5/3PhSo204uHay8ateN XdKjuR92e6HQwZnlQW34csSi/Vi9xvXkzrFCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=qNuBbx0GO1BbtMIf3zfXRAv79gqOt0KyPJJ1s9GHMa9jUbaqaHM6bXIH/3niwVeXej 6xdKxOQ2VF0Mf+en+PrY5sDqte0F1NrwmDFEleqxLBqubiB/OwG6FjMpQ1aoaoXHjtkg PoAwaOx2wh9IM+facLhTPa8sF0bqZ5rECrEBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.150.142 with SMTP id y14mr169314ibv.32.1268248406043; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:13:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> References: <20100309191916.GA55827@thought.org> <4B96E3CA.7050906@hdk5.net> <20100310033452.GA2223@thought.org> <6201873e1003092004y5e1a7c5and97c8eb849619961@mail.gmail.com> <20100310190117.GB65190@thought.org> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:13:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3b93bd111003101113k7555dbbo18a9922dfde5d798@mail.gmail.com> From: "Diego F. Arias R." To: Gary Kline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Adam Vande More , FreeBSD Mailing List , Al Plant Subject: Re: "tao" suddenly died X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:13:27 -0000 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 10:04:26PM -0600, Adam Vande More wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Aloha Al and thanks for responding. {god this has been a > > > long day... . ............} > > > > > > Well, long-story-short, the most unepect thing happened: a > > > power surge. I did not realize that my printer was also off > > > until hours later. A friend helped me trace the problem and > > > reset my surgge-protector. ---It is worth noting that BEFORE > > > I got my battery [UPS], when things were dead or suddenly > > > went dead, i knew right away to check the surge-protector. > > > > > > nutshell: things are almost back. it'll be only an hour > > > before everything is back. > > > > > > still, this is a warning to get back on the ball and start > > > looking for a new desktop. > > > > > > i would be much obliged for ideas on what kind of dell to buy > > > next. i say 'dell' because i would like to make life simple > > > and eventually have one kind of box. (i have three tower > > > computers: one is my DNS/mail/web server; one is my pfSense > > > firewall; one is my laptop. i COULD use the server as a > > > desktop, but that would be too much of a risk! > > > > > > so:: should i be looking for a dual or quad? ----i am biased > > > toward intel because i think the AMD requires more juice. [[my > > > only linux server --long dead-- seemed to suck 100w to 107w as > > > a minimum.]] > > > > > > suggestions? > > > > > > > I don't really think much of Dell consumer level products or support. > While > > they aren't the worst out there, it still doesn't make it very compelling > > for me. Depending on your resources(money) you might consider something > > like this: > > > WEll, frankly, _cost_ is less of an issue considering all > the grief, &c. i think I've built [custom ordred] more > and better systems than the Dells and HPs. > > > > > http://www.ixsystems.com/apollo > > > I'll look this up when I am using a GUI mailer. > > > > While more money than you'd probably spend with dell, here's a couple > > reasons to consider it further. > > > > 1. Out the Box compatibility > > 2. Great hardware support/warranty service > > 3. Vendor backing of your OS > > 4. Long term upgradability, this will serve you better than any > emachine. > > 5. ixsystems is a large supporter of FreeBSD > > > > I believe the TCO of something like that is lower than most alternatives. > > > > One further thought is I don't see a lot sense in the requirement "must > be a > > dell, cause the other ones I have are dell" given the amount of machines > you > > run. To me, it would make more sense to standardize on something like > cpu, > > so that you could run one as a build system/package repository. I know > that > > settling on one vendor generally means you only need one source for > warranty > > work, but with stickers on cases and online accounts this isn't such an > > issue anymore. > > > > > I would like to establish a history with one vendor, so > your feedback makes sense. > > What I haven't decided on yet in whether to go with a > dual-core or quad-. mY current desktop is a 2.4GHz and > has always seemed slow when I've running more than five > tasks. Strange. The new dual-core server is like > greased lightening ... and extremely lightly loaded. > > gary > > > > > > -- > > Adam Vande More > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service > Unix > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I will choose to go witha Dual Core and the extra buck to a better hard driver, more memory or even better a good quality mainboard. -- mmm, interesante.....