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I am aware of closed-source VBox Guest Additions > problem. My VM works fine for a first minute or two but then it stops > when I start working on it. With DRM and Framebuffer X11 drivers so it My experience is that you have to enable "Use Host I/O Cache" for the SATA storage controller, otherwise it will lock up sooner or later. It seems to not be the default. With it enabled, I don't have any issues. [...] Bengt