From owner-freebsd-net Tue Mar 19 0:44: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from sulphur.cix.co.uk (sulphur.cix.co.uk [212.35.225.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CFD37B400 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from LEECH (170.234.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.234.170]) by sulphur.cix.co.uk (8.11.3/CIX/8.11.3) with SMTP id g2J8i9L13996; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:44:10 GMT X-Envelope-From: owen.grover@ts-associates.com From: "Owen Grover" To: "Greg Black" Cc: Subject: RE: Freebsd REL_ENG 4.3 p28 freezes every 30 minutes. Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 08:41:33 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm glad someone else has mentioned this as I have had similar PCMCIA problems with my Tosh Tecra 8100 laptop and I've had to revert back to 4.3. Owen -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Black Sent: 19 March 2002 02:03 To: Mike Silbersack Cc: Josef Karthauser; W Alexander Hagen; freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd REL_ENG 4.3 p28 freezes every 30 minutes. Mike Silbersack wrote: | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Greg Black wrote: | | > Josef Karthauser wrote: | > | > | 4.3 is two whole major releases ago. You should be running 4.5, which | > | you can get by cvsuping using the tag RELENG_4_5_0_RELEASE, or the tag | > | RELENG_4 if you wish to be at the head of developments on the -stable | > | branch. | > | > This is not wise advice. There are lots of circumstances where | > 4.3 is perfectly fine and can be shown to work while 4.4 and 4.5 | > are broken. I have had to revert to 4.3 on several machines | > after attempting unsuccessfully to run 4.4 and 4.5 (and current, | > for that matter). | | Which PRs describe the problems encountered? I have not submitted a PR yet. I have raised the problems on the FreeBSD mailing lists several times since 4.4-RELEASE and have had some correspondence with Warner Losh and Greg Lehey in vain attempts to establish some basis for working towards a solution. In essence, I have laptops that work fine with PCMCIA cards under 4.3 but which don't recognise them at all under later releases (including 4.4, 4.5 and current as of a few weeks ago). The symptoms, as reported several times, are: * Failure to boot without the following magic in /boot/loader.conf: hw.pcic.intr_path="1" hw.pcic.irq="0" * Boot message that says: pccard: card inserted, slot 0 pcic0: Static bug detected, ignoring hardware. These messages are printed whether or not there is a card in the slot. * As a result of the previous item, naturally the PCMCIA cards don't work when inserted. The same machines, when running 4.3-RELEASE, drive my PCMCIA cards just fine. I have CURRENT on one of these boxes and could CVS update it for further tests if somebody can suggest where to start looking. If it would really help to submit a PR at this point, I suppose I could do that. It seems to me that it would be more useful to learn a bit more first. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message