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Date:      Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:05:01 +0600 (NOVT)
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru>
To:        Igor Timkin <ivt@gamma.ru>
Cc:        hubs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: New FreeBSD mirror
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012181330200.25575-100000@inet.ssc.nsu.ru>
In-Reply-To: <200012171249.eBHCnrK06621@crocus.gamma.ru>

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Hello!

Let me clarify the situation a little bit.  First of all, most mirrors are
located (to my knowledge) in Moscow and nearby.  Obviously, this is not
the only city in Russia.  Here in Novosibirsk there's only one official
BSD mirror, vell.nsc.ru, which is, in fact, OpenBSD one.  I can fetch most
of the ports from there (for instance), but this is really not the perfect
(and desired) situation.

By mailing me your traceroute output, you've actually proven that Moscow
mirrors are not quite acceptable for most part of the country (at least
from geographical positions).

By the way, I did not say that I propose inet.ssc.nsu.ru as mirror host.
Moreover, this is not true: I simply do my email here :)  Possible mirror
site will be uni.nsu.ru.  Second, NSU is about to notably increate its
bandwidth, so your statistics is very likely to become out of date soon.

Third, even now, I'm able to cvsup from cvsup.freebsd.org (!) without any
trouble/connection losses.  While it could be rather slow during certain
time periods during the day, it does indeed show pretty good speed during
others.

By creating a mirror here, in Novosibirsk State University, I assume we'll
help a lot of people devoted to FreeBSD not to overload their (and
eventually your) channels, saving them both time and money.

Finally, I don't see how creating a new mirror would not benefit the whole
FreeBSD community.  What's the problem with new mirror?  I actually feel a
bit, uhm, surprised and even frustrated (?) by your response.  This is
definitely not the feedback I seeked and looked forward to.

--
	With all due respect, sincerely,
	Alexey Dokuchaev aka DAN Fe

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Igor Timkin wrote:

> There are several full FreeBSD mirror in Russia.
> What's you mean `good channel' ?
> traceroute to inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
>  1  gw-sovam (194.186.254.22)  0.805 ms  0.807 ms  0.415 ms
>  2  gamma-lgw.Moscow.ST.NET (194.186.0.29)  1.408 ms  1.261 ms  1.303 ms
>  3  cisco13.Moscow.ST.NET (194.186.157.238)  2.506 ms  2.291 ms  2.872 ms
>  4  MSK-M9-RBNet-1.RBNet.ru (193.232.244.32)  6.857 ms  24.383 ms  4.092 ms
>  5  MSK-M10-RBNet-1.RBNet.ru (195.209.14.158)  6.310 ms  5.069 ms  7.874 ms
>  6  NSK-TCMS8-RBNet-1.RBNet.ru (195.209.14.10)  163.741 ms  156.099 ms  137.025 ms
>  7  TCMS8-RBNet-2M.nsu.ru (193.124.208.17)  222.453 ms  141.862 ms  198.923 ms
>  8  NSU-TCMS8-2M.nsu.ru (193.124.208.29)  211.410 ms  429.586 ms *
>  9  transit.nsu.ru (193.124.215.19)  179.742 ms  164.577 ms  859.132 ms
> 10  linux.ssc.nsu.ru (193.124.219.91)  223.613 ms  235.219 ms  261.808 ms
> 11  inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12)  194.399 ms  249.712 ms *
> 
> ping -s 1400 -c 50 -q inet.ssc.nsu.ru
> PING inet.ssc.nsu.ru (62.76.110.12): 1400 data bytes
> 
> --- inet.ssc.nsu.ru ping statistics ---
> 50 packets transmitted, 42 packets received, 16% packet loss
> round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 206.313/306.236/457.806/55.225 ms
> 
> Alexey Dokuchaev writes:
> > 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > Several days ago I'd written you the following message, and have not
> > received any response so far.  Had my letter been considered?  Please give
> > me any response so I know I'm not talking to abyss.
> > 
> > Beyond is the copy of the original message.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> > Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:26:08 +0600 (NOVT)
> > From: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@inet.ssc.nsu.ru>
> > To: hubs@FreeBSD.org
> > Subject: New FreeBSD mirror
> > 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > I have an opportunity to create a FreeBSD mirror ftp site.  I have both
> > good channel and over 16G of disk space.  Is it possible to mirror, say,
> > only recent releng_4 stable + distfiles, plus maybe CERT advisories, and
> > avoid mirroring all the mail archives?
> > 
> > Well, I will really appreciate any sort of information/assistance with
> > regard to this subject.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > --
> > 	Yours,
> > 	Alexey Dokuchaev
> > 
> > 
> > 
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