From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Sep 17 20:36:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21271 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21180 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id VAA07472; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:35:36 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199809180335.VAA07472@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: CAM/ncr messages.. In-Reply-To: <13825.46672.35984.907842@tbuswell.ne.mediaone.net> from Ted Buswell at "Sep 17, 98 09:35:49 pm" To: tbuswell@mediaone.net (Ted Buswell) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 21:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ted Buswell wrote... > > On a -current system that was CVSup'd and installed today, I'm > getting some interesting messages and was wondering if > anyone had any insight. The messages occur when doing > significant I/O [rm -rf, buildworld, etc.] No softupdates > or anything. > > Attached is my dmesg output. > ncr.c is rev 1.128 > cam_xpt.c is rev 1.5 Justin fixed some more bugs in the NCR driver today that might help your problem. Get revision 1.129 of ncr.c, and see if that helps. The problems in the earlier versions of the NCR driver are basically caused by drives that send queue full messages. I see you have a number of Atlas II drives. You'll get lots of queue full messages from them, which would cause the problem you're seeing. The firmware on your Atlas II's (LXY4) is also somewhat buggy. The newer LYK8 firmware fixes some of the bugs: ftp://ftp.quantum.com/Firmware/Atlas-II/LYK8/ When there is a high amount of traffic on the bus, drives with the LXY4 firmware sometimes just go "out to lunch" and don't come back. CAM deals with this by sending a BDR to the device after 10 seconds to wake it up. With the LYK8 firmware, the drives won't go "out to lunch", but they will still send the queue full messages continually. We deal with this via quirk entries for the Atlas II that don't let the number of queue entries go below 24. You may not run into this problem since you're not running at Ultra speeds. I ran into it quite frequently on one of my machines at work that has two Atlas II's and a Plextor CDROM on an Adaptec 2940. If you see your drives behaving like that, though, upgrading the firmware may help. > Should messages like this be going to -scsi or -current? You'll probably get a faster response by mailing -scsi. Sometimes there is a lot of noise (and lag) on -current. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-scsi" in the body of the message