From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 16 21:37:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA18807 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:37:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from euthyphro.uchicago.edu (euthyphro.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA18802 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sfarrell@phaedrus.uchicago.edu) Received: from phaedrus.uchicago.edu (phaedrus [128.135.21.10]) by euthyphro.uchicago.edu (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA23703; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:37:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from sfarrell@localhost) by phaedrus.uchicago.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) id XAA29916; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:37:18 -0500 (CDT) To: adrian@virginia.edu Cc: FreeBSD Hackers List Subject: Re: Rhapsody is 4.4BSD based!? References: From: stephen farrell Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.89) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: 16 Oct 1997 23:37:17 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin"'s message of "Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:16:36 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <8767qxc8ea.fsf@phaedrus.uchicago.edu> Lines: 32 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.64/XEmacs 19.15 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" writes: > Has anyone else seen this? Aparently Apples next generation OS > is 4.4BSD based. Do I smell a new emmulation to support? > > You can get the basics from the following PCmag URL: > > http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/news/trends/t971016a.htm > > I wonder which 4.4BSD they started with? It is reported to be > multithreaded. I wonder if them mean kernel-multithreaded? > I'm not sure about the 4.4BSDedness. I think they really *mean* to say 4.3BSD updated with tools from 4.4BSD. The kernel is still mach 2.5 (like NeXTSTEP) with BSD emulation layer, and as such it is a very different beast than Free|Net|OpenBSD. Emulation? Well, the only emulation that would be interesting would be the OPENSTEP based GUI stuff. For that, see http://www.gnustep.org/--however Apple is likely to add features outside of the OPENSTEP spec, and I'm not sure what the future is of the OPENSTEP API itself. Presumably gnustep could try to clone the rhapsody interfaces (or at least all apps to run)... not sure how helpful apple will be with this, however. -- Steve Farrell