From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 21 03:59:55 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0092816A4CE for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FCB43D2F for ; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:53 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2C2085684; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:29:46 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Kris Kennaway Message-ID: <20050321035946.GH79501@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20050321001225.GA30997@xor.obsecurity.org> <01a701c52dae$bed8dd10$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050321025018.GA99877@xor.obsecurity.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: Christopher Nehren cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ebay Phishing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 03:59:55 -0000 --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 20 March 2005 at 18:50:18 -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 07:41:00PM -0500, Matt Emmerton wrote: > >>> What do you have to edit? If you're in Comcast dynamic space, why not >>> just smarthost through their servers? >> >> Not referring to Comcast, but for Rogers which is also blacklisted by >> a lot of people: their "smart" host likes to delay or randomly drop >> outbound mail making it useless for reliable email delivery, and they >> require you to send mail from a rogers.com address, which means you >> can't use personal domains (like this one). >> >> Kris >> >> ----------- reply separator ------------- >> >> Actually, what you say is not true for Rogers. I've been sending mail >> directly out of my Rogers-hosted machine for almost a year now, without >> going through their "smart" hosts. This was one of the reasons I switched >> to Rogers from Sympatico -- Sympatico locked down port 25 which forced me to >> use their crappy mail servers, and I was easily losing 50% of my mail. > > I don't understand what your point is...I didn't say rogers forced you > to use their smarthost, only that lots of people (e.g. lots of people > in europe and russia, in my experience) blacklist your emails when you > don't. Indeed. I do, and it blocks an amazing amount of spam. I do have the courtesy to say "please use your ISP's mail server" in the error reply. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFCPkayIubykFB6QiMRAlGpAKCTU5/own7Oo95jm7yXIwE2tfk+DwCeKTT1 3gogl/5BkZ4RwFRmS+dnpSs= =vyqE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dMyqICaxQaaUjrCL--