From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Oct 22 20:37:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBC7C1D3E4 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from le@main.put.com) Received: from main.put.com (main.put.com [12.144.5.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E63D60 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from le@main.put.com) Received: from main.put.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by main.put.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u9MK7P8i032285; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (le@localhost) by main.put.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id u9MK7OKd032282; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:07:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Louis Epstein To: , Subject: Jive prejudices Message-ID: <20161022155730.K31642-100000@main.put.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 20:37:33 -0000 Nobody has answered me on this on the Usenet group. I've used FreeBSD since 2.1. A couple of days ago I did one of my frequent svn updates of /usr/ports and the revised MOVED file advised that misc/jive had been deleted, "expired: Offensive". Never having seen that as a reason to delete a port before (and countless applications can be used to do things that offend),I then installed the program via pkg out of sheer curiosity. (I was at this point told the program was to deprecated and offensive and asked to reconsider installing it as the installation went through). >From the man page and the article about it ("Jive filter") on Wikipedia, I gather that it's a parodic language-mangler like the ones that turn prose into "valspeak" or "sound like a pirate" or "Swedish chef". In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is detected on my system. This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to "we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you have this one installed". I am still able to upgrade via pkg but am wondering if that's next? And when will portmaster resolve its wrinkles over linux_base-c6 and linux_base-c7 (the makefile for the former generates error messages for both portmaster and svn now)? You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use. -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.