From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Nov 29 16:47:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24177 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:47:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24168 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA08518; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:25 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA01253; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:23 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981130111623.E831@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:16:23 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: rssh@grad.kiev.ua, Adrian Filipi-Martin Cc: dyson@iquest.net, wes@softweyr.com, tlambert@primenet.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: System V init (was: Linux to be deployed in Mexican schools; Where was FreeBSD?) References: <3661E443.5E392E32@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <3661E443.5E392E32@Shevchenko.Kiev.UA>; from Ruslan Shevchenko on Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 12:18:11AM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 30 November 1998 at 0:18:11 +0000, Ruslan Shevchenko wrote: > A I still don't understand why this has become an issue again. > >> There is /usr/local/etc/rc.d. The scrtips are called with "start" and >> using rc.shutdown, you can make sure they are called with "stop". What >> more does a third party software vendor need? They certainly cannot care >> about how basic system functions are managed. > > becouse services are depend from each other. > > for example, let you have database ans SNMP interface daemon for it. > > SNMP interface daemon start "after" databse, learm PID of database > from pid-file of one. Now you want to restart database, you call > start and stop scripts, and magically you SNMP interface don't work. OK, but you can do this in System V as well. I still haven't seen anything that explains what System V init will do (and BSD init won't) that we need to implement automatic startup and stopping of subsystems. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message