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Date:      Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:04:56 -0500
From:      Ted Sikora <tsikora@home.com>
To:        "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2
Message-ID:  <3A6EE108.25026852@home.com>
References:  <3A5F1F43.EE70CB3C@inode.at> <20010112161044.A97484@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <009e01c07cb7$132d9e30$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F3951.9932EED5@mindmaker.com> <00d101c07cbe$4f1f84b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F95AF.F8B120D4@mindmaker.com> <20010124141126.A97916@luke.immure.com> <031e01c08643$0134c420$3028680a@tgt.com>

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"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:
> 
> Yes - I have since found that you are correct.  I have found or heard rumor
> of many people out there (especially on EBAY) selling Athlons as a
> Thunderbird when in fact it was a classic.  Usually, I have found this out
> when I specifically queried them about it - or they simply refused to
> answer.
> 
> Tom Veldhouse
> veldy@veldy.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Willcox" <bob@immure.com>
> To: "Bernhard Beck" <bbeck@mindmaker.com>
> Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>; <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2
> 
> > I can attest to the fact that Slot A thunderbirds do exist. I own 3 of
> > them (one 900 and 2 700 MHz). I guess I was fortunate that my Slot A
> > thuderbirds worked properly (all running FreeBSD) in the MBs (MSI and
> > Abit) that I have, though I have also heard that problems exist with
> > some MBs
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:39:27PM -0800, Bernhard Beck wrote:
> > > According to an article published in c't 14/2000, page 32 (online at
> > > http://www.heise.de/ct/00/14/032/default.shtml, use Altavista's
> > > Babelfish to translate), Slot A Thunderbirds do exist. In a nutshell
> > > among other things AMD slightly changed the bus interface design on the
> > > Thunderbirds so that you need chipsets like VIA KT133, KM133 or AMD 760.
> > > But under certain conditions the Thunderbird can also work with a KX133
> > > or the Irongate chipset.
> > > There is a nice table at the end of the article listing a few Slot A
> > > motherboards and if they worked or not with the two sample Slot A
> > > Thunderbirds c't had available in their lab at that time.
> > > Michael's Asus K7M with Irongate chipset is listed as working with the
> > > exact same BIOS version.

Count it as a blessing the Slot A classic's are more robust under
load... 512 cache is still more than 256 no matter what the speed.
Usually worth 10% look at the Celeron vs Pentium II. I don't care what
the benchmarks say in the real world there is a difference.

--
Ted Sikora
Jtl Development Group
http://powerusersbbs.com
Linux the choice of a GNU generation............


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