From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 24 16: 9:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E937C37B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from home.com ([24.2.169.205]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010125000923.UBVR18735.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:09:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3A6EE108.25026852@home.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 09:04:56 -0500 From: Ted Sikora Reply-To: tsikora@powerusersbbs.com Organization: Jtl Development Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2 References: <3A5F1F43.EE70CB3C@inode.at> <20010112161044.A97484@walton.maths.tcd.ie> <009e01c07cb7$132d9e30$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F3951.9932EED5@mindmaker.com> <00d101c07cbe$4f1f84b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3A5F95AF.F8B120D4@mindmaker.com> <20010124141126.A97916@luke.immure.com> <031e01c08643$0134c420$3028680a@tgt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote: > > Yes - I have since found that you are correct. I have found or heard rumor > of many people out there (especially on EBAY) selling Athlons as a > Thunderbird when in fact it was a classic. Usually, I have found this out > when I specifically queried them about it - or they simply refused to > answer. > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Willcox" > To: "Bernhard Beck" > Cc: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: Athlon Thunderbird 700 w. Asus K7M Motherboard vs. FreeBSD 4.2 > > > I can attest to the fact that Slot A thunderbirds do exist. I own 3 of > > them (one 900 and 2 700 MHz). I guess I was fortunate that my Slot A > > thuderbirds worked properly (all running FreeBSD) in the MBs (MSI and > > Abit) that I have, though I have also heard that problems exist with > > some MBs > > > > Bob > > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 03:39:27PM -0800, Bernhard Beck wrote: > > > According to an article published in c't 14/2000, page 32 (online at > > > http://www.heise.de/ct/00/14/032/default.shtml, use Altavista's > > > Babelfish to translate), Slot A Thunderbirds do exist. In a nutshell > > > among other things AMD slightly changed the bus interface design on the > > > Thunderbirds so that you need chipsets like VIA KT133, KM133 or AMD 760. > > > But under certain conditions the Thunderbird can also work with a KX133 > > > or the Irongate chipset. > > > There is a nice table at the end of the article listing a few Slot A > > > motherboards and if they worked or not with the two sample Slot A > > > Thunderbirds c't had available in their lab at that time. > > > Michael's Asus K7M with Irongate chipset is listed as working with the > > > exact same BIOS version. Count it as a blessing the Slot A classic's are more robust under load... 512 cache is still more than 256 no matter what the speed. Usually worth 10% look at the Celeron vs Pentium II. I don't care what the benchmarks say in the real world there is a difference. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group http://powerusersbbs.com Linux the choice of a GNU generation............ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message