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>>>> Let me ask this a different way: did they update to something so new
>>>> that it only works on very recent OSs? Like should I test with a
>>>> windows 8 system or something?
>>>
>>> No. Firefox 38 on FreeBSD 10-STABLE here, works fine.
>>
>> Well, given that 10.0 came out only a year and a half ago, that
>> doesn't really give me any more info. I'm wondering where the cutoff
>> is for "too old" in this case, assuming that's even the issue.
>
> It is the browser, not the operating system. Unless you have an
> unpatched openSSL, maybe.

OK, where does curl fit into that then? Presumably all the versions I 
have access to are too old I guess.