From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Sep 18 8:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B766D37B424 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arcadia (unknown [63.171.251.13]) by cliff.i-plus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 06ABF4174; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:31:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Troy Settle" To: , Cc: , , Subject: RE: I-Mail on NT equivalent for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:32:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <56633.969267873@verdi.nethelp.no> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of sthaug@nethelp.no > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 5:05 AM > To: nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > Cc: bvt@zenon.net; alex@aspenworks.com; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: I-Mail on NT equivalent for FreeBSD? > > > > qmail, ezmlm, vchkpw, qmailadmin, courier-imap, and some other little > > bits can build something that rivals CommuniGatePro. I tend to do the > > ezmlm stuff with ezmlm-web though (that may be because I had a little to > > do with testing and developing it). > > > > For the ssl stuff, I put sendmail-tls in front of qmail for tls over > > smtp, and stunnel for smtps. There's also a tls patch for qmail around > > somewhere to do it internally, and for sending smtps. Courier-IMAP > > supports TLS now, and you can put a stunnel in front of qmail-pop3d for > > pop3s. > > > > The stuff isn't perfectly there yet (at least not three or four months > > ago when I looked at it), but it's definitely something you can hack on > > for a short time and get it to behave exactly the way you want. > > The question is, how much time do you need to setup and maintain this? > > We run both CommuniGatePro and postfix here (for somewhat different > purposes), and are happy with both. We concluded that CommuniGatePro was > worth it, even if it's definitely not free. > For 4 years, I used the FreeBSD's default sendmail distribution. About 2 years ago, I switched to postfix to handle my virtual domains (using the nifty MySQL hooks). Last year, the company I worked for got bought up by an NT-based ISP. They used Imail. We migrated ~5k user accounts from a FreeBSD 3.2 box (C333, 256mb, sendmail, and UW-IMAP/POP3) to an NT4 box (Dual PIII, 512MB, Imail). Performance went straight to hell, and customers started bitching up a storm. I since quit to form my own company, and have decided to use Qmail/vpopmail/courier-imap/sqwebmail. It took me about 4 hours to dig through all the documentation and get everything up and running. After a few test installs, I've got that down to about 1 hour. I don't expect maintenance to be very timeconsuming at all. I'm using Platypus, which I've got set up to automatically configure new domains and create/delete mailboxes. It works a treat. Anyways, my point is that while I fully expect that any UNIX MTA will kick the shit out of Imail, I'd reccomend the qmail/vpopmail/etc solution any day of the week. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message