From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jan 30 18:43:58 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A4937B401; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from durendal.skynet.be (durendal.skynet.be [195.238.3.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8610843F75; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [193.0.9.156] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by durendal.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.20) with ESMTP id h0V2hkc11593; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:43:47 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030131015918.J31399@aqua.lan.palfreman.com> References: <20030129163652.J22139-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> <20030130022654.C31399@aqua.lan.palfreman.com> <20030130010126.Y341@12-234-22-23.pyvrag.nggov.pbz> <20030131015918.J31399@aqua.lan.palfreman.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 03:43:58 +0100 To: William Palfreman From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: 4.7-R-p3: j.root-servers.net Cc: Doug Barton , Fred Clift , "" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 2:11 AM +0000 2003/01/31, William Palfreman wrote: > Only in the case of a _unitary_ domain name system. With different > roots and different TLDs, based in different legal jurisdictions, it is > not possible for a court to enforce arbitrary domain name decisions (as > it is at present) because if their whim of the moment is not acceptable > to the different competing nameserver admins, the is nothing the courts > can do. Not true. If you live in country B, and you are convicted of a crime in country A, you may think you are safe. However, if the legal system in country A can convince the legal system in country B that you should be expedited, you are toast. Heck, if country A decides to send in commandos to haul your ass in, they don't need the cooperation of the legal system in country B -- although, it does make things a lot easier. Then there's the International court. Either way, it may take longer, but the courts in the various countries are starting to become much more activist and deciding that their reach extends to anywhere in the world that they want it to, regardless of national boundaries. Don't think that you can hide forever. > The purpose of multiple competing roots and TLDs is precisely to get > away from the legalistic takeover of the Internet, which is founded on > their own ignorance and utter lack of technical understanding. When they can hire thugs to come break your kneecaps anywhere in the world, your techno-utopia of being immune to everything outside will come crashing down around your head. -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message