From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 16 06:50:15 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1700D16A4CE for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:50:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wolf.bytecraft.au.com (wolf.bytecraft.au.com [203.39.118.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647243D41 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:50:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com) Received: from svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com ([10.0.0.4]) by wolf.bytecraft.au.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i5G6ncL8098427; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:49:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com) Received: from wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Not Verified[10.0.0.3]) by svmarshal.bytecraft.au.com with MailMarshal (v5,0,3,78) id ; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:49:38 +1000 Received: from [10.0.17.42] (wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com [10.0.17.42]) by wombat.bytecraft.au.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DAF3F0F; Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:49:36 +1000 (EST) From: Murray Taylor To: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20040615.235310.29962573.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20040616020930.GA72483@freebie.dcfinc.com> <1087357223.35868.4.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> <20040615.234508.12220305.imp@bsdimp.com> <20040615.235310.29962573.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Bytecraft Systems Message-Id: <1087368575.35868.21.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:49:35 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: chad@dcfinc.com cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org cc: non_secure@yahoo.com cc: taylorm@bytecraft.au.com Subject: Re: Paring down a FreeBSD system for flash drive use ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 06:50:15 -0000 On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 15:53, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20040615.234508.12220305.imp@bsdimp.com> > "M. Warner Losh" writes: > : In message: <1087357223.35868.4.camel@wstaylorm.dand06.au.bytecraft.au.com> > : Murray Taylor writes: > : : On Wed, 2004-06-16 at 12:09, Chad R. Larson wrote: > : : > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:04:28PM -0700, Joe Schmoe wrote: > : : > > > : : > > Murray Taylor wrote: > : : > > Google for minibsd > : : > > > : : > > http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html > : : > > > : : > > I have used miniBSD as a firewall box on an Advantech WEB-2143 > : : > > quite successfully > : : > > : : > Another thing to consider is that the FreeBSD 4.x kernel is quite a > : : > bit bigger than in the old days. Bloat seems like entropy, > : : > inevitable without constant care. Since most embedded systems are > : : > not going to need SMP, nor the advanced virtual memory systems (no > : : > disk--no swap), you might rather build your system starting with > : : > perhaps a 2.2.8 system. > : : > > : : > -crl > : : > : : FWIW > : : Im using FreeBSD 4.7 in a 32MB Compact Flash card ... > : : > : : df -h says I'm using 47% of the CF card... > : > : Bah! I've made 4.5 bootable CF's using only 9MB of my 16MB flash... > : 47% of 32 is 15MB :-). Of course that's w/o X. The 3.4 based system > : was only about 1MB smaller. > : > : I do it by not trusting installworld. It installs way too much, so > : instead, I have a list of directories to install and a glue script. > : I'm currently adapting things to 5.x and hope to make it less TSC > : specific. > > In addition, we try to not install GPL programs, which is harder to do > without an explicit list of directories to install.... Hmmm, maybe > installworld needs a NO_GPL flag :-) > > Warner Ok ok so I'm only a green belt wizard who is more than happy with the vanilla flavour that I create .... ;-p (and no I dont have X installed (yet) on the CF) All I did was follow the miniBSD instructions from the site mentioned above then stirred up the stuff necessary to create the bridge firewall and network monitor. Having bashed picoBSD around several years ago, I am much happier with the miniBSD structure as all the standard programs are there _unmodified_. Many is the time in picoBSD land when I have gone - 'If only option -x was in the build of this utility!!' or 'Aghh - where's when you want it" mjt -- Murray Taylor Special Projects Engineer --------------------------------- Bytecraft Systems & Entertainment P: +61 3 8710 2555 F: +61 3 8710 2599 D: +61 3 9238 4275 M: +61 417 319 256 E: murraytaylor@bytecraftsystems.com or visit us on the web http://www.bytecraftsystems.com http://www.bytecraftentertainment.com --------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted in this e-mail is for the exclusive use of the intended addressee and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, dissemination or other use of it, or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons and/or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please inform the sender and/or addressee immediately and delete the material. 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