From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 6 14:56:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC2435BD for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de (wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de [IPv6:2a01:488:42::50ed:8591]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75FDE1DED for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xdsl-78-35-69-169.netcologne.de ([78.35.69.169] helo=dijkstra-old.cruwe.de); authenticated by wp376.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) id 1WBQMx-0002p0-4l; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 15:55:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 15:55:57 +0100 From: "Christopher J. Ruwe" To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools Message-ID: <20140206155557.3f1f6c9a@dijkstra-old.cruwe.de> In-Reply-To: <20140206144924.GA9915@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> <52F2C0C8.5010203@gmx.de> <52F32F7C.2030601@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20140206143630.0338602f@dijkstra-old.cruwe.de> <20140206144924.GA9915@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;cjr@cruwe.de;1391698561;4a7a7912; Cc: Matthias Apitz X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:56:01 -0000 On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 15:49:24 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=C3=ADa Thursday, February 06, 2014 a las 02:36:30PM +0100, > Christopher J. Ruwe escribi=C3=B3: >=20 > > On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 23:26:18 -0800 > > Kevin Oberman wrote: > >=20 > > > If you use poudriere, you can roll your own packages with custom > > > options and maintain things pretty reasonably, but for a single > > > system (or two), this is a bit of overkill. As things stand, this > > > is a real pain to use customized ports and packages from the > > > standard FreeBSD distributions. I'm waiting with great excitement > > > for this to appear, though I have no idea if it is near or far. > >=20 > > I really don't think so. Even with a single machine, poudriere > > literally saved my a.. pretty bottom several times breaking on > > implicit dependencies which would have popped up ages later with > > nasty and difficult to trace problems/errors. > >=20 > > I think anybody who compiles from ports should _really_ use > > poudriere. I even think it should be strongly suggested in the > > handbook. (I'd be willing to write that up for that matter.) >=20 > Please point me to the existing documentation. I don't see the string > "poudriere" in our handbook.=20 >=20 > Thx >=20 > matthias >=20 I wrote "it should be suggested", which means that I think it would be a good idea, not that it already happened. I do not understand how that could be misunderstood. Cheers, --=20 Christopher=20 TZ: GMT + 1h GnuPG/GPG: 0xE8DE2C14 =20 FreeBSD 9.2-STABLE #1 r256184: Thu Oct 10 19:12:54 CEST 2013 cjr@dijkstra.cruwe.de:/usr/obj/usr/home/cjr/media/src/freebsd/base/stable/9= /sys/GEN_WDTRACE=20 =20 Punctuation matters: "Lets eat Grandma." or "Lets eat, Grandma." - Punctuation saves lives. "A panda eats shoots and leaves." or "A panda eats, shoots, and leaves." - Punctuation teaches proper biology. "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." (RFC 1925)