From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 8 22:05:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC88EF67 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-x236.google.com (mail-ve0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 92B051AD6 for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 22:05:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id jw12so1339564veb.41 for ; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5RLJkx1LFitKo/vtk7+rhejs80C+F2FSQTjuUdsyRyI=; b=vXd+j9d938sLmJ44UkGY4lp0ecovfXbqciYjiJE+mGL+jCVfOtRG01r36N4NT8NoRN yggBfWD5xoembcmwF+vzxXavIVGBTUEQG8bw2mgxCfJyPdCfDvgObzEZHR3q9bEjGr4t GJ6gDchtA953nON/3hsn07hUjlHCrZmAG7tFs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5RLJkx1LFitKo/vtk7+rhejs80C+F2FSQTjuUdsyRyI=; b=fdqIJIjqN8sMqcdJylbQp2X4uFGaL9Px3k8A23fNjTjLWKLd5dqW25clRozBqZKQBD +NfhYPEs71fHUaa8FtRMThczb4I9h4GH25RqpPvVgVeSByl24lHjukRUT/dDPp3O4HFX uMxCW6BxPyDWiV/92iUG+z+pTO1wfOfUeMVJ3oNClDVczk87ukyc/3J1SfwkWNzOeCJo AH6sfF6OjEjEMrjv9q57tcPqobzFn86C3R5bmXZaOlz5xR2LLtIpVjPBs1fV0xYbFFfC tipIUEfo+W5l8oX00kwtLb2+y2OsbLiLVG89jC09EqcmvLBGgspxF+KoZSXV5l8H6egh 3/tA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk5qFyGmYRGxfgtwXFeEd82mw0KEKHmNsGACydIuxJR6H7jxlRnpLPkIA8GxiDz7HvUmOlw MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.253.75 with SMTP id zy11mr4516954vdc.10.1396994746565; Tue, 08 Apr 2014 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.30.69 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:05:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57ECB078-3D7A-4BE8-AA29-1ED7BB347DBD@bsdimp.com> References: <20140408212435.GA75404@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <57ECB078-3D7A-4BE8-AA29-1ED7BB347DBD@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 15:05:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Time for turning off gdb by default? Or worse... From: Peter Wemm To: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Steve Kargl , freebsd-arch X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 22:05:47 -0000 On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: [..] >> 2) What effect does this have on kgdb? Note, /sys/conf/NOTES contains > > Unfortunately, kgdb isn't available as a port, so that does matter. It is one > thing arguing against this change. This is a big deal, unfortunately. kgdb would be a big loss. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV