From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Sep 6 14:32:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9C015773; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:32:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA74549; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Brad Knowles Cc: Pascal Hofstee , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: softupdates in latest build? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:09:11 +0200." Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:31:51 -0700 Message-ID: <74545.936653511@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I ran into some problems with a number of things that had changed > in the format of kernel configs, but the biggest thing I've run > across so far is the fact that Berkeley Packet Filtering (bpf) is now > enabled by default, as opposed to disabled by default. This has been discussed positively to death, and in order for DHCP to work this simply had to happen. If you want network sniffage immunity, use a proper switch like the rest of us. :) As it is, any of one's Windows (or other OS) boxes can be turned into sniffers so easily that turning off bpf in FreeBSD is good for little more than a false sense of security. > This opens a *huge* security risk for anyone who doesn't > reconfigure their kernel or doesn't fully comprehend the potential > danger here. Are we really sure that the FreeBSD Inc. has > sufficiently increased it's liability insurance to cover the > potentially multi-million dollar lawsuits that might result from this > change? Paragraph 9 of the license: THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE REGENTS AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. In other words, all of FreeBSD is a "use it at your own risk" proposition and we can add code which specifically targets your family and pets for extermination (e.g. we can build the terminator and let it loose on you) and it's still all your fault for allowing us to do that. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message