From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:49:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443ED1065686 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:49:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (alchemy.franken.de [194.94.249.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC05A8FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: from alchemy.franken.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/ALCHEMY.FRANKEN.DE) with ESMTP id mA4MnSd0014922; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:49:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marius@alchemy.franken.de) Received: (from marius@localhost) by alchemy.franken.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4MnSVm014921; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:49:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marius) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:49:28 +0100 From: Marius Strobl To: mdh Message-ID: <20081104224928.GF31338@alchemy.franken.de> References: <20081104115722.GA28394@soaustin.net> <477229.94848.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <477229.94848.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Mark Linimon , freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netra T1-200 debugging (was: Free Ultra2 in Silicon Valley, USA) X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:49:30 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 05:09:00AM -0800, mdh wrote: > > By the way, I'm pretty sure that there's no ATA controller in these. Should just be good ole SCSI. I mention this because I noticed Marius mentioned the ata driver in another message. Well, there in fact is an ATA controller in T1 200... > > I haven't ever worked with a T1-200 myself. It does indeed look like an intermediate step, engineering-wise, between two very well-engineered machines (the T1-105 and the V120). > > Marius, I'm curious - the T1-200 has dual-eri interfaces on the mainboard, similar to the V100/V120? > AFAICT the T1 200 and V120 share the exact same mainboard, the former is just the telco version with a different front bezel and not sold with an 650MHz CPU. IMO "both" are very well engineered. T1 105 seem more like the first try of Sun doing an 1U machine. They even didn't build these an own motherboard but recycled the CP1500 cPCI module which is just mounted inside the chasis together with an expansion board. IMO this setup and the resulting wiring makes these machines seem kind of fragile. From reading just this list I got the impression that the mezzanine RAM these machines use is prone to be defective. V100 are different beasts again and seem to be designed with lowest-cost in mind. They have a rather small mainboard without a PCI-slot, not even ERI NICs but Davicom DM9102A and of course no SCSI. Otherwise these are the same generation technology as T1 200/V120, while T1 105 belong to the previous one. Marius