From owner-freebsd-rc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 25 23:17:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CAE106566C for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [69.66.77.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF9D8FC14 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5PMoRDY045424; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5PMoRQ7045423; Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:27 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Doug Barton Message-ID: <20090625225027.GB45036@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <4A21A4F6.5060709@dougbarton.us> <20090601212506.GA2351@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090601212506.GA2351@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:50:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removal of deprecation for network_interfaces != AUTO X-BeenThere: freebsd-rc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion related to /etc/rc.d design and implementation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:17:33 -0000 --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline So based on the feedback I saw, there were two use cases where there wasn't another easy way to do what setting network_interface's. Yours (though I think my suggestion may well work) and Matthew Seaman's which won't actually work in 8.0 without other config changes. In both cases, those uses reflect a failure to support valid use cases which is a good reason to leave the ability to set network_interfaces in place. That being said I'd still like to see the warning restored because: - It doesn't prevent using these workarounds. - It reduces support issues due to misuse. - Most reported uses were in fact wrong. - Removing network_interfaces will help us move toward a state of more dynamic configuration to better match system realities. -- Brooks --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFKQ/8yXY6L6fI4GtQRAtDQAJ49tJPBLbxxTd5XLotDntMutKPJLACg5cju 3jKJ7pBpks/idt22hvIwrJ8= =cdY+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jq0ap7NbKX2Kqbes--