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Date:      Tue, 20 Oct 2015 21:46:15 -0700
From:      Jason Matthews <jason@broken.net>
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Subject:   Re: [zfs] RE: granularity of performance penalty from resilvering
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I am not sure we are communicating.

Instead of prioritizing resilvering, de-prioritize resilvering using 
those tunables.
j.

On 10/20/2015 7:14 PM, Fred Liu wrote:
> Yeah, that is a trade-off. Prioritize resilvering high will shorten the time window.
> That means brake your application "temporarily??". Even in current situation, the resilvering
> eats almost all the IOs.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-zfs-devel@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-zfs-devel@freebsd.org]
>> On Behalf Of Jason Matthews
>> Sent: 星期三, 十月 21, 2015 10:00
>> To: zfs@lists.illumos.org; zfs-discuss@list.zfsonlinux.org; developer;
>> freebsd-fs; zfs-discuss; developer@lists.illumos.org; zfs-
>> devel@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: [zfs] RE: granularity of performance penalty from
>> resilvering
>>
>>
>>
>> i just sent you the tunables. turn the knobs in the other direction.
>>
>> j.
>>
>> On 10/20/2015 6:58 PM, Fred Liu wrote:
>>> This feature is really needed. Even in some low-end RAID controllers,
>>> the rebuilding penalty is tunable more than the high-end enterprise
>> storage....
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Jason Matthews
>>>> Sent: 星期三, 十月 21, 2015 9:53
>>>> To: zfs@lists.illumos.org; zfs-discuss@list.zfsonlinux.org;
>>>> developer; freebsd-fs; zfs-discuss; developer@lists.illumos.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [zfs] RE: granularity of performance penalty from
>>>> resilvering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is the only way to fly...
>>>>
>>>> j.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2015 6:35 PM, Fred Liu wrote:
>>>>> Yeah. I want to go the other way. Plus, these settings are only
>>>>> applicable in illumos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Therefore I decide to give up the hybrid( ssd+sata) solution to
>>>>> underpin applications which need decent RAS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am gonna go all-flash array.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:*Jason Matthews [mailto:jason@broken.net]
>>>>> *Sent:* 星期三, 十月21, 2015 9:05
>>>>> *To:* zfs@lists.illumos.org; Fred Liu;
>>>>> zfs-discuss@list.zfsonlinux.org; developer; freebsd-fs; zfs-discuss
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [zfs] RE: granularity of performance penalty from
>>>>> resilvering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> you could look at these tunables (not the settings themselves)...
>>>>>
>>>>> these settings actually make resilvers have a higher priority. You
>>>>> obviously would want to go the other way.
>>>>>
>>>>> j.
>>>>>
>>>>> |* Prioritize resilvering by setting the delay to zero| set
>>>>> |zfs:zfs_resilver_delay = 0 |
>>>>>
>>>>> * Prioritize scrubs by setting the delay to zero set
>>>>> zfs:zfs_scrub_delay = 0
>>>>>
>>>>> |* resilver for five seconds per TXG| set
>>>>> |zfs:zfs_resilver_min_time_ms = 5000|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> |echo zfs_resilver_delay/w0 | mdb -kw| echo zfs_scrub_delay/w0 |mdb
>>>>> |-kw| echo zfs_top_maxinflight/w7f |mdb -kw| echo
>>>>> |zfs_resilver_min_time_ms/w1388 |mdb -kw|
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/19/2015 11:49 PM, Fred Liu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       Yes, “zpool scrub –s” can stop the resilvering.
>>>>>
>>>>>       *From:*Fred Liu
>>>>>       *Sent:* 星 期二, 十月20, 2015 12:15
>>>>>       *To:* 'zfs-discuss@list.zfsonlinux.org
>>>>>       <mailto:zfs-discuss@list.zfsonlinux.org>'; developer; illumos-
>> zfs;
>>>>>       freebsd-fs; zfs-discuss
>>>>>       *Subject:* granularity of performance penalty from resilvering
>>>>>
>>>>>       Sorry if is a duplicate thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>       The last suffering has been lasted for two weeks for we
>>>>> replaced
>>>> a
>>>>>       6TB HDD.
>>>>>
>>>>>       There should be some IO throttle measure from ZFS software
>> stack.
>>>>>       At least, we can try to stop resilvering like scrubbing
>>>>>
>>>>>       if the realization is quiet complicated.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Besides that, will nice zil/cache be relief?
>>>>>
>>>>>       Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>       Fred
>>>>>
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