Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:04:32 -0700 From: Gary Kline <kline@tao.thought.org> To: Chris <racerx@makeworld.com> Cc: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Claude Menski <claude.menski@gmail.com>, doug@fledge.watson.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: I like Ubuntu Message-ID: <20070415040432.GA75277@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <46212CC5.9050408@makeworld.com> References: <2a4057fc0704131021t60249c62k4107ee6cf9f1fb8f@mail.gmail.com> <86mz1ckqlc.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070413183656.E73976@fledge.watson.org> <86tzvjz2dr.fsf@dwp.des.no> <20070414125712.L73976@fledge.watson.org> <46212CC5.9050408@makeworld.com>
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:34:29PM -0500, Chris wrote: > doug@safeport.com wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > [[ ... ]] > > In my case this included leaning to think in 'Unix', and reaching an > > understanding with (rather than of) regular expressions, sed, and awk. > > > > My workstation/laptop hardware does not really allow the option of > > building things like KDE and OpenOffice, so I upgrade basically by > > starting over with packages. I usually can do this in an hour or so. > > When I first started, I found the differences between BSDI, FreeBSD, and > > Linux confusing. Now mostly its more of an irritant than having to use > > my son's mac to watch ESPN videos. I've been experimenting with system tuning to get my slower (400MHz) laptop and tower cases to run lots ffaster with X ... and, obv'ly, lots slower for less important processes. As a hard-core CLI type, I'd like to see lightweight apps like links tied to a GUI version of mutt. Or something similarly lightweight where you can click on a URL and have it instantiate links. If you must-hae 3D, then Xaw-3D will do the magic. .... > > To me, this is where Ubuntu (I can't speak for other Linux distros) is > the clear winner over FreeBSD on the desktop. Ubuntu is near > out-of-the-box when it comes to media (audio/video/etc) of any sort. > > Sure, there are a few steps to get it all to gel - but once you enter a > few lines (or if you prefer point-n-click) - you never have to worry > about media working again (trust me, I used to keep a Windows box just > to do the things I mentioned). > > Again - I'm talking about a desktop use. I have used Ubuntu server (both > i386 and sparc) and FreeBSD is still my fav. however, Ubuntu (for > installing LAMP) is nearly even w/FreeBSD. > > To me, apt-get is certainly cleaner and superior to > portupgrade/portmanager. Perhaps someday either or will be as reliable > as apt-get. > > Just my opinions of course. Mine too, as far as ease-of-use goes. Ubuntu is a different kind of Linux where they say up front that Linux is only a kernel; that the rest is up to the real hackers, the app folks. My only concern with Ubuntu is upgrading from my current 6.06 to 7.XX. I can upgrade FBSD with one finger. Upgrading Ubuntu isn't quite push-button. Not yet anyway. The last thing: I'll never trust my DNS server to anything except the Berkeley distributions. and that's my dime's worth! gary > > > -- > Best regards, > Chris > > If not completely satisfied, return for full refund of purchase price. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix
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