From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 16 15:13:10 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FE037B400; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from topaz.mdcc.cx (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DF843E65; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:13:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from k7.mavetju (topaz.mdcc.cx [212.204.230.141]) by topaz.mdcc.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10282B678; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:12:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08F6B6A7124; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:12:47 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 08:12:47 +1000 From: Edwin Groothuis To: AlanE Cc: chet@po.cwru.edu, kris@obsecurity.org, roam@ringlet.net, sroberts@dsl.pipex.com, m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG, portmgr@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: portupgrade of bash-2.05b_1 failing now for second day Message-ID: <20020916221246.GH69776@k7.mavetju> References: <020916141859.AA20253.SM@nike.ins.cwru.edu> <20020916143538.GB87117@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020916143538.GB87117@wwweasel.geeksrus.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:35:38AM -0400, AlanE wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2002 at 10:18:59AM -0400, Chet Ramey wrote: > >> Just add a more appropriate MASTER_SITE..we can't do much about broken > >> FTP sites. > > > >Excuse me? How exactly does ftp.cwru.edu's policy of asking for ident > >information make it a `broken FTP site'? The ftp server is waiting for > >a response to its ident request, and fetch times out. > > And if I don't run an ident server, or I run one that returns ERROR > no matter what, or I don't have that port open at all? Why should I have > to change my firewall and my system daemons in order to fetch some > source code? I've told you in a previous thread Alan, if *your* host doesn't do the right thing (i.e. TCP packets send to a port without a service bound to it should be RSTed instead of dropped), don't blame the other host for it. ftp.cwru.edu has/had the policy "we do idents of ftp-sessions". If you don't like the policy, don't go there and get them from somewhere else. Yes, the closed firewall policy on FreeBSD is defaulted to drop the packets instead of RSTing them, you have the power to submit a PR and if there are enough good arguments, people will listen and change it. I'll repeat it once again: Your host is wrong here, ftp.cwru.edu is function properly. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.MavEtJu.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/weblog.php bash$ :(){ :|:&};: | Interested in MUDs? http://www.FatalDimensions.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message