From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 20 20:59:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DD237B402 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from davidwnt (davidwnt.viasoft.com.cn [192.168.1.239]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20982; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:08:37 +0800 Message-ID: <00f701c1ba94$a8868980$ef01a8c0@davidwnt> From: "David Xu" To: "Terry Lambert" , "Mike Meyer" Cc: "Danny J. Zerkel" , "Aleksander Rozman - Andy" , References: <20020217161249.D0B2B3235@ns1.rwwa.com><5.0.2.1.0.20020220214519.02b98280@213.161.0.10><200202210204.g1L245H20108@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com><3C74716E.E36286FF@mindspring.com> <15476.30005.502996.945006@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Clearcase and FreeBSD Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:00:18 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Terry Lambert types: > > "Danny J. Zerkel" wrote: > > > Maybe cvs is an academic toy. Most real development requires a = real > > > configuration management system. Why do you think there is work = being done > > > on FreeBSD in Perforce? > > Frankly, it's because CVS only permits a single line of > > concurrent developement, and it's a limiting tool; but > > CVSup is CVS-centric and fails with P4, and P4 costs money as a > > barrier to adoption for FreeBSD if the project were to cut over to > > it, >=20 > Not necessarily. The client is free, and in the ports tree. That > includes the server with an evaluation license, which limits it to two > clients and two users. Perforce offers Open Source software projects > free multiuser - which means unlimited clients - licenses. See http://www.perforce.com/perforce/price.html > and search for "open > source" on the page. They even point to the FreeBSD license as a good > choice for a candidate. >=20 > > so there's understandable backpressure against using it for the main > > repository. >=20 > I think the real pressure is that none of the sources are > available. Last time I checked, they didn't even publish a description > of the protocol between the server and the client, so you can't > independently develop a client. They *do* provide a link library for > all their build platforms that you can use to build custom clients, > but you don't get source to that. >=20 > I admit to being biased, but I think that switching would be an > incredible win for everyone concerned. >=20 > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more = information. >=20 Does Perforce support replicate like FreeBSD's current CVSUP support? if not, how does it support large number of users or connections?=20 is it a trend that FreeBSD community will migrated to use Perforce = instead=20 of CVS? I prompt these because I feel somebodies try to create two=20 FreeBSD source repositories :( Am I wrong? Thanks, -- David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message