From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun May 19 17:40:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D32115B3961 for ; Sun, 19 May 2019 17:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f50.google.com (mail-ot1-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C3CC6DA38 for ; Sun, 19 May 2019 17:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f50.google.com with SMTP id i2so5632892otr.9 for ; Sun, 19 May 2019 10:40:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YYyKPNeItz7o0XABMgGiWK2SHpoVQ0pTne32FJ78AHw=; b=cEKY9xtBOb5BwXJbWBYIHR9NbbUEu1RZp9zUHuDBBNzyjvmzdGw3tg5SdXMbwbTv19 iPQB4owKmd10sDCSfd9lmVVDTujUTAXJ/tdHHJH/INExMp3JIHG7cNdUTau6JP530eEG y5+CQHUC34r2k/AaGxZBYSwg5F7J5hBEC1QVd9SCWfBHqBejbRbGL47F5QH1jkKOKK0q yJwROYPKpSEdnAeLH5Uig9qUTrP4/SJ7vVtgcHcX0SRSQ2yKiKuHG5WE1ZnoiJ11uGiR 6NKfdB4FQUO+MGBTk+xrLm7qFbOf0cnffhTFePlkPcR8hIXtdfbeSCzxUT690mg5IKM3 LPGw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW5UlHpa6kJj5u4WfkYpWl5fiZ2LDhqA9XLPfty32jjzK0s25VD tkOISnELc9jC2Qu0S3CwPvdaftiFHZ8U+rdVIzs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxxTudqomUenADK3DoaYbX5Png4SjlQeP1UpjVMz6qdcMmq/S1ov7BROdTu1U2+MyOheiPWjIJndAF9grLdAcc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1182:: with SMTP id u2mr30828272otq.71.1558287277705; Sun, 19 May 2019 10:34:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <868svf6r05.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 18:34:02 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD Core Team Response to Controversial Social Media Posts To: Warner Losh Cc: Graham Perrin , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7C3CC6DA38 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mozolevsky@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mozolevsky@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.84 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hybrid-lab.co.uk]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[50.210.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.18]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[50.210.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.56)[-0.565,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk,mozolevsky@gmail.com]; IP_SCORE(-1.27)[ip: (-0.52), ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.50), asn: 15169(-2.27), country: US(-0.06)]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 17:40:29 -0000 On Sun, 19 May 2019 at 17:54, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:25 AM Graham Perrin wrote: > > > I know, it's not appropriate to find fun in a serious discussion, but > > these six words did make me chuckle: > > > > > =E2=80=A6 freedom of expression =E2=80=A6 End of discussion. > > > > No offence intended. I was speed-reading (waiting for a browser to > > launch) and those six words leapt out at me :-) > > > > Yes. There will always be limits, just like in real life. You can't tell > fire in a theater, and claim freedom of expression, for example. While that is an often cited example, it is rather tenuous as far as "freedom of expression" is concerned: yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theatre is by no measure an expression of one's views, thoughts, or opinions. At the same time, the invocation of a CoC ctte review is triggered by precisely the latter. --=20 Igor M.