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Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 10:59:31 -0700
From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
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Subject: Re: It's 2008. 1 TB disk drives cost $160. Quotas are 32-bit. 
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:05:06 +0200 =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>  wrote:
> Heinrich Rebehn <rebehn@ant.uni-bremen.de> writes:
> > Andrew Reilly <andrew-freebsd@areilly.bpc-users.org> writes:
> > > But with the level of use in recent years, maybe the right answer is
> > > to consign them to the bin (or an optional GEOM layer or whatever),
> > > along with tty line disciplines, uucp, isdn and X10?
> > With this reasoning you could also drop the shell and tell people to
> > use kde. BTW, X10 has been replaced by X11 ;-)
> 
> No, the X10 Andrew refers to has been replaced by better standards such
> as LonWorks.  JFGI.

Hey, X10 works well enough and you can still get X10 modules
and controllers.  But you don't need any kernel support; just
need one little program.  I still do this:

    x10 switch printer on
    <print print print>
    x10 switch printer off  

Besides, LonWorks is already pass\xe9 -- from what I hear the
latest hot thing is zigbee (but that was last month; surely a
new standard is afoot by now).

To bring this back on topic, perhaps John Kobuzik can just
use the zfs since it already has quota support? For example,

# zfs create z/foo
# zfs quota=10M z/foo
dd < /dev/zero bs=1M count=20 > /z/foo/xx
dd: stdout: Disc quota exceeded
11+0 records in
10+0 records out
10485760 bytes transferred in 4.718700 secs (2222171 bytes/sec)
# zfs set quota=10T z/foo
# zfs get quota z/foo
NAME   PROPERTY  VALUE  SOURCE
z/foo  quota     10T    local