From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Aug 17 04:57:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27850 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 04:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from animaniacs.itribe.net (gatekeeper.itribe.net [209.49.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA27824 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 04:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@itribe.net) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost) by animaniacs.itribe.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id HAA11751; Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:56:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 07:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Brett Glass cc: Mike Smith , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 64-bit time_t In-Reply-To: <199808141756.LAA24900@lariat.lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 14 Aug 1998, Brett Glass wrote: > At 10:41 AM 8/14/98 +0000, Mike Smith wrote: > > >C is not "unsafe", it is "not-safe", meaning that you're responsible for > >your own security. In this it is no less "safe" than any other > >language as you are a fool if you take the "safety" of any other > >language on trust. > > Gee, by this reasoning a car without seat belts, a horn, or bumpers is > is really no less "safe" than any other car. After all, you're a fool if > you trust your car to be safe. > > I guess I'll remove that pesky blade guard from my circular saw, too. > After all, doing that doesn't make the saw any less safe. > > NOT. I don't care how many times you make this analogy, it still doesn't work. You're not the consumer, you're the designer/implementer. It's your job to put the seatbelts, bumpers, airbags, etc. in your code. You have the raw materials and the assembly plant. Jamie Bowden -- Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message