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boundary="00000000000011bcb70644769881" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4dGPSG3xS7z3DyM --00000000000011bcb70644769881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 7:43=E2=80=AFPM Mark Linimon = wrote: > > On 11/25/2025 8:05 PM CST Sulev-Madis Silber < > freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee> wrote: > > > > the amount of time needed to battle with dev tools should be instead > used just to dev stuff. > > I understand your frustration. > > But while this is true, there are ways to use git that do not > actually require this level of effort. > Yes. that's why we did git arc. With it, the level of effort is quite low. It's also why we're working on getting a more integrated solution so that we can review patches off a submitted branch more easily. github is a stop-gap, at best. So yes, git + git-arc + arcanist + php-the-the-right-version(8.4) is a bit much to install, but it works well enough that I manage 100 branches with it. > I am _certainly_ not a git expert and so I struggle with it, so > I am not the right person to give you advice, but IIUC you are > having more difficulty than most of the other contributors have. > OTH, there is no bad intent here. Please take these into account. > Yes. It can be frustrating to learn the 'paved path' that we have. And I'll be the first to admit that 'bushwhacking' a solution is going to be a very, very hard time. One that I'm afraid I can't help with since it takes a lot of my time that means I can't help a larger number of others that are on or near the 'paved path.' I'm sorry. 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On Tue, Nov 25,= 2025 at 7:43=E2=80=AFPM Mark Linimon <linimon@portsmon.org> wrote:
> On 11/25/2025 8:05 PM CST Sulev-Madis Silbe= r <freebsd-hackers-freebsd-org952@ketas.si.pri.ee> wrote= :
>
> the amount of time needed to battle with dev tools should be instead u= sed just to dev stuff.

I understand your frustration.

But while this is true, there are ways to use git that do not
actually require this level of effort.

= Yes. that's why we did git arc. With it, the level of effort is quite l= ow.

It's also why we're working on getting= a more integrated solution so that we can review patches off a submitted b= ranch more easily. github is a stop-gap, at best. So yes, git=C2=A0+ git-ar= c=C2=A0+ arcanist=C2=A0+ php-the-the-right-version(8.4) is a bit much to in= stall, but it works well enough that I manage 100 branches with it.
=C2=A0
I am _certainly_ not a git expert and so I struggle with it, so
I am not the right person to give you advice, but IIUC you are
having more difficulty than most of the other contributors have.
OTH, there is no bad intent here.=C2=A0 Please take these into account.
=

Yes. It can be frustrating to learn the &#= 39;paved path' that we have. And I'll be the first to admit that &#= 39;bushwhacking' a solution is going to be a very, very hard time. One = that I'm afraid I can't help with since it takes a lot of my time t= hat means I can't help a larger number of others that are on or near th= e 'paved path.' I'm sorry.

Warner
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