Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 08:21:17 -0500 From: Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com> To: Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Updating from 11.3-stable to 12.1-stable? Message-ID: <20200501132117.GE1510@rancor.immure.com> In-Reply-To: <202005010842.0418g6is012936@sdf.org> References: <mailman.32653.1588244990.21073.freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> <202004301346.03UDkr12006318@sdf.org> <20200430145227.GD1510@rancor.immure.com> <202005010842.0418g6is012936@sdf.org>
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On Fri, May 01, 2020 at 03:42:06AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote: ... > > You may not get bitten often, but the probability is that you will eventually > be chewed on badly if you do things in an unsafe manner long enough. Perhaps, but I have lost count of the number of times that I have updated my personal systems (these are all just my home personal systems) over the past decades with a similar procedure w/o any issues at all. But I'm certain it's been hundreds of times. I have 10 FreeBSD systems here at the house that I run 24/7 and update each of them about every 3 months or less. Updating to a new release isn't so frequent, though this certainly isn't the first time I've done that. I stopped following the detailed steps that you refer to back in the late '90s when I discovered that the update process was quicker and worked reliably (for me) doing it as I do. Though I can get to the console on all of my systems if needed, I normally don't need to and it is significantly more convenient to simply access all of my systems from my one FreeBSD workstation via my local network. Consequently I avoid booting into single user mode with them unless there is a real need to. These systems are important to me (some more than others, as a number of them are test systems), but they aren't "bet your business" critical or something that will directly impact others should they be down for awhile while I am recovering from something that went wrong. Also, the important systems all have backups should one be down. > > > doubt that there are risks, just updating a system carries some pretty significant > > risks. > > > > Guess I sorry I said anything about this...didn't mean to get people riled up. > > > AFAIK, nobody here on the list was. Your posting your procedure allowed others > to fill in the gaps in your understanding and possibly do the same for other users > reading the list or looking in the list archives. This has been a recurring issue > on this and other lists for many years. There is so much information in the various > pieces of documentation--FreeBSD is a *big* set of software--that nobody can be > expected to read and notice every detail before they start using the system. > Best of luck. I still don't know how I'm going to get from stable/11 to > stable/12, given that stable/12 fails to build on my stable/11 system. :-( Well, I didn't have any problem with building 12.1-stable on my 11.3-stable system during the process...fortunately. I was concerned that that was the most likely step that would give me trouble. Oh well, it's been an interesting discussion but I think I'll bow out of it now and probably just keep plugging along as I have been for years... :) Bob -- Bob Willcox | It's possible that the whole purpose of your life is to bob@immure.com | serve as a warning to others. Austin, TX |
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