From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Tue Dec 17 14:24:20 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760C61E9A07 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (107-204-234-170.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47cgPc0wvwz4PL2; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id xBHEOHqg032397; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:24:17 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id xBHEOH0f032396; Tue, 17 Dec 2019 06:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 06:24:17 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Ed Maste Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Making NO_CLEAN configurable through src.conf, possibly default Message-ID: <20191217142417.GY1144@albert.catwhisker.org> Reply-To: hackers@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: hackers@freebsd.org, Ed Maste , FreeBSD Hackers References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w+MAdceOglSEzbpc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47cgPc0wvwz4PL2 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 14:24:20 -0000 --w+MAdceOglSEzbpc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 04:54:40AM -0500, Ed Maste wrote: > For several years I've built with NO_CLEAN, and would like us to > consider making it the default in the future.... > As a first step I've proposed having it be set via src.conf WITH_CLEAN > / WITHOUT_CLEAN knobs, in review https://reviews.freebsd.org/D22762. > What do folks think (of WITH_/WITHOUT_CLEAN and of making it the default)? > .... I used to use NO_CLEAN for several years for my daily builds (& smoke-tests), but a few years ago(!), I switched to using META mode -- which, in my experience, seems to work better most of the time. (Caveat: I'm not really comparing them under the same circumstances, so use an appropriately-sized "grain of salt.") Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org McConnell is on record that the Senate vote will not be influenced by facts or the Constitution. Thus, it will not be a "vindication" at all. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --w+MAdceOglSEzbpc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl345RFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 PcnGtAgA0rpoOUfZfNJFN981swULgANdsAmJjiahDUM668uEHoRWm0dS/qqEuda5 qCs17XLByzAC7L9deLVZH3EIkVXLdpcD9v+FdfvLzFvIU2tjRyN49/VLUNlYkNHK nD7rtLplKTGhQEaxJmbWQf8VpnYdcGqr/Sm4o3NL9Dy44oVLEvbyGjQxrs4ccHFn 04wMCHsp19+y7q5HAtSHq56xegTGHFR9BmjO6DPqePy3aI6HSA7zxlmNwoZ1kqb+ 4TgmIXDZny/hPNB2oLZj6m2P4Bzysv9Y6m+ywfnyhmi+Ff+89AQs65dgEZby6hTR egIGDkiuu+sLkNBi6rWLuIldTVg53g== =PGnt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w+MAdceOglSEzbpc--