From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 17 3:41:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FDCD37B419; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from callisto.picknowl.com.au (callisto.picknowl.com.au [203.87.94.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426843E6A; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 03:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imoore@picknowl.com.au) Received: from daemon (popadl-04-012.picknowl.com.au [210.48.131.12]) by callisto.picknowl.com.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9HAfV906743; Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:11:31 +0930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Ian Moore To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" Subject: Re: Unix history Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:11:24 +0930 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <200210162209.37061.imoore@picknowl.com.au> <20021017010625.GB57421@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20021017010625.GB57421@wantadilla.lemis.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200210172011.24942.imoore@picknowl.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:36, you wrote: > On Wednesday, 16 October 2002 at 22:09:36 +0930, Ian Moore wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if the commercial Unix variants are really unix 'clon= es' > > in the same way that FBSD & Linux are, > > Well, that's an interesting claim. Linux and BSD are *very* different > inside, though the user interface is similar. Well, maybe Unix-like would be a better way of putting it? :-)=20 > > > or do/did they contain AT&T code? > > As far as I know, all commercial UNIX versions contain AT&T code. > It's possible that things like Tru64 have removed it all. > > > They often seem to be refered to as Unix, but I assume that > > (according the laywers) they are not unix anymore than FBSD is. > > No, according to the lawyers, anything which passes the UNIX standards > compliance suite is UNIX. That includes Microsoft NT and IBM's > OS/390. Technically, commercial UNIX is no more UNIX than FreeBSD, > but that's mainly because of gratuitous differences. > > > If so, it's interesting that AT&T let so many companies copy their > > software! > > Why? They paid dearly for the privilege. I assumed AT&T or the Open Group must have been paid in some way, but non= e of=20 the the Unix histories or discussions about the BSD-AT&T lawsuit that I'v= e=20 read actually said anything about that. > > Greg Ian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message