From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 29 15:16:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484041065670 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3254A8FC27 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:16:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (172-67-237-24.gci.net [24.237.67.172]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A785A28E2897 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 14:59:03 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Beech Rintoul Organization: FreeBSD Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:59:02 -0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200811290559.03099.beech@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: i give up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:16:17 -0000 On Friday 28 November 2008 20:41:55 you wrote: > It's been two-three months now since I bought this new machine, and I'm > no closer to seeing any solution to the failure on FreeBSD's part to > recognize and/or utilize my SATA controller. I've been monitoring the > lists and the CVS repo, even offering suggestions as to how I might help > to resolve this issue, but no one seems to be interested in helping me > to get this thing working. Even microsoft sometimes suffers with this problem. A friend of mine went out and bought vista when it was first released and wanted to upgrade from xp. I told him it was a bad idea and he should wait but no, he installed it anyway. To make a long story short it was missing several drivers that were unavailable. The main difference is microsoft has millions to throw at development and most of the vendors by the balls to write drivers. It still took 3 months to finally get all the vista drivers he needed. I just built a new quad core machine, but was careful to buy a MB and video card I knew would play nicely with FreeBSD. I also bought a SATA DVD drive knowing it probably wasn't going to work, but it was on sale so I bought it anyway. I knew that there was development going on for SATA drives and it would probably work eventually. And sure enough with the 4 month old -CURRENT snapshot I first loaded it didn't. However when I updated -CURRENT to the latest a couple of weeks ago the drive now works fine. So development is happening but in the open source world it sometimes isn't as fast as we'd like for our favorite piece of hardware. I would never buy an off the shelf box without: 1: Doing a lot of homework and talking to others to make sure everything is supported. And 2: Has a return policy if it doesn't play nicely. You don't have to tell them you're going to put FreeBSD on it, but if it turns out bad you just restore windows and return the box. Sorry you got bit, but Linux is not immune from it either and you might find yourself trading one problem for another. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------