From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 15:26:45 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA82A16A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from bogslab.ucdavis.edu (bogslab.ucdavis.edu [169.237.68.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E5343D49 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu) Received: from thistle.bogs.org (thistle.bogs.org [198.137.203.61]) by bogslab.ucdavis.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i08NQgKO012331 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from thistle.bogs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thistle.bogs.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id i08NYMx86020 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 15:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@thistle.bogs.org) Message-Id: <200401082334.i08NYMx86020@thistle.bogs.org> To: hackers@freebsd.org X-To: Michel TALON X-Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:37:24 +0100." <20040108163724.GA26745@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:34:22 -0800 From: Greg Shenaut Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:26:45 -0000 In nuntio <20040108163724.GA26745@lpthe.jussieu.fr>, Michel TALON divulgat: >By the way, what's the reason that it is impossible to have just one >floppy which boots FreeBSD kernel, allows to see an unbootable cdrom >and continue installation from here? I agree. The boot floppy tries to do w a y too much. I think we should think of the boot floppy as way to implement an old-style console emulator: it "boots" and you tell it where to read the *real* boot image from. It should support all of the usual sources: CDs/DVDs, NFS mounts, FTP, and so on. The real boot image would know how to format drives, install distributions & packages, and so on. This "boot console" floppy would only need to change to support new hardware, and there could even be boot-source-specific versions of it. Once you had one that worked on a specific type of PC, you could keep using it indefinitely. Greg Shenaut